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    [1] "distance%=3.0935"

    German:German69

    Swiss_German,52
    Sorb_Niederlausitz,33.6 - no slavs
    DEU_MA,14.4

    distance%=3.3049"

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    [1] "distance%=2.7312"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sche View Post
    There are no more pure Slavs, except for the southern and central Russians.
    why not Polesians?



    Quote Originally Posted by Sche View Post
    Sorbians are a mixture of Germans and Slavs
    i'm sure a lot of them are, but this sample isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    why not Polesians?




    i'm sure a lot of them are, but this sample isn't.
    Polesie is part of the ancestral home of the Slavs. Only the Russians retained its Slavic genetic basis, exclusively only the Russians. Neither Ukrainians nor Belarusians are the prototype of the Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sche View Post
    There are no more pure Slavs, except for the southern and central Russians. Sorbians are a mixture of Germans and Slavs, therefore it is impossible to count on the fact that the admixture of sorbes among Germans is a Slavic admixture.
    Just

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cebula View Post
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    Explain why Poles often share a PCA with Russians. But the Russians are never with the Poles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sche View Post
    Explain why Poles often share a PCA with Russians. But the Russians are never with the Poles.
    Right, Poles can be modeled as Russians with admixture, yet I wouldn't call Russians pure Slavs. Such term just doesn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    why not Polesians?
    There is no such nation or ethnic group. Anyway, this obsession with "pure Slavs" is quite irritating. All of Belarus is homogenously Northeast Euro/Balto-Slavic with very high rates of R1a.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sche View Post
    [1] "distance%=3.0935"

    German:German69

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    Sorb_Niederlausitz,33.6 - no slavs
    DEU_MA,14.4

    distance%=3.3049"

    German:German69

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    [1] "distance%=2.7312"

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    Swiss_German,22.2
    Swiss Germans are almost pure Celts i believe, and the Sorb has celtic influence, check the models on the previous pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    Swiss Germans are almost pure Celts i believe, and the Sorb has celtic influence, check the models on the previous pages.
    Yet when Szolad V2 who clusters close to belarusians and was most likely a pure Slav was used as a proxy percentages in Germans remained the same as when sorbs were used even if sorbs are a bit mixed, so it doesn't seem to really matter. For German samples sorbs can be used as a descent model for Slavic heritage among Germans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    There is no such nation or ethnic group. Anyway, this obsession with "pure Slavs" is quite irritating. All of Belarus is homogenously Northeast Euro/Balto-Slavic with very high rates of R1a.
    Yet southern belarusians plot closer to urkainains and are more distant to balts than northern belarusians are because they are less Baltic admixed. And balts despite having common origins with slavs are still different this is very apparent in genetics as the vast majority of slavic countries do not cluster with balts.

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