Daco Celtic's AncestryDNA vs 23andMe (2019 Updates)

[Daco Celtic]

AncestryDNA is crap except the raw data. It says I am 62% Irish/Scottish but that in reality it says the range can be from 32% to 63% so that just seems mathematically retarded on their part. The rest of my Ancestry it says is from Britain, Germanic Europe and Scandinavia mostly.

This is the most accurate estimate I have ever gotten to my ancestry and even it is not perfect -- from Lukasz k36 analysis :

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Scotland
2 SW_England
3 Orkney
4 Ireland
5 NL_Friesland
6 Iceland
7 SE_England
8 NL_Groningen
9 Northern_Ireland
10 NW_England


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
2 Scotland+Scotland
3 NL_Groningen+SW_England
4 NL_Groningen+Scotland
5 Norway_Hedmark+FR_Brittany
6 Scotland+SW_England
7 West_Prussia+Scotland

8 NL_Groningen+NW_England
9 NL_Groningen+FR_Brittany
10 Scotland+Norway_Hedmark
.

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Scotland +25% West_Prussia +25% Scotland
2 50% SW_England +25% SW_England +25% Norway_Hedmark
3 50% SW_England +25% Scotland +25% Norway_Hedmark
4 50% Scotland +25% West_Prussia +25% SW_England
5 50% Scotland +25% Scotland +25% Norway_Hedmark
6 50% Scotland +25% SW_England +25% Norway_Hedmark
7 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% Norway_Hedmark
8 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% Scotland
9 50% SW_England +25% West_Prussia +25% NL_Groningen
10 50% SW_England +25% NL_Groningen +25% Denmark
6741882 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland
2 SW_England+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
3 Scotland+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
4 West_Prussia+Scotland+Scotland+SW_England
5 Scotland+Scotland+Scotland+Norway_Hedmark
6 Scotland+Scotland+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
7 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
8 West_Prussia+Scotland+SW_England+SW_England
9 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England
10 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+SW_England+SW_England
11 NL_Groningen+SW_England+SW_England+Denmark
12 NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland+Scotland
13 West_Prussia+NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland
14 NL_Groningen+Scotland+Scotland+SW_England
15 Scotland+Scotland+Norway_Hedmark+FR_Brittany
16 West_Prussia+Scotland+SW_England+Norway_Hedmark
17 NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England+Denmark
18 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+Denmark
19 NL_Groningen+Scotland+SW_England+SW_England
20 West_Prussia+SW_England+SW_England+SW_England

I had K36 about this time last year. It's good but you probably have more info with the new results. I do agree about AncestryDNA but it was worth it because of the raw data. My mom's half is about 95% Cork Irish so they got that right.

[JamesBond007]

What does it mean to be retardedly obsessed with being Irish? I know disproportionate amount of Irish-Americans take these tests. Are you referring to Scot-Irish Americans who mistaken believe they are Irish?

I've seen German Americans claim they are Irish. Basically, Americans view 'Irish' as the ideal ethnicity because they were underdogs and they weren't racist but victims of racism and most Americans would rather be called anything but racist. Come to New York city for the Saint Patrick's Day parade and you will see every kind of European American claiming to be Irish. The reality is the Irish are the like Mexicans of Europe and their brother Gods the Scottish have way more achievements in the arts, sciences, and inventions but for some reason Scottish nationalists almost have to kidnap people to join unlike Irish nationalists.

[JamesBond007]

I had K36 about this time last year. It's good but you probably have more info with the new results. I do agree about AncestryDNA but it was worth it because of the raw data. My mom's half is about 95% Cork Irish so they got that right.

You have to know how to read the K36 analysis as it uses different methods and only one the methods will probably be most accurate for you as everyone is different. One of the methods claimed I was basically Dutch but that is because the English/Scots or British are closely related to the Dutch and lowland Scots are descended from Anglian-Norse Teutons with some Celtic mixture so Lukas said the Dutch was my Saxon ancestry coming through.

[JamesBond007]

I had K36 about this time last year. It's good but you probably have more info with the new results. I do agree about AncestryDNA but it was worth it because of the raw data. My mom's half is about 95% Cork Irish so they got that right.

Possibly, as he has an Alsace-Lorraine region now and it was picking up my Germanic heritage from Alsace-Lorraine as West Prussian since my German grandmother, from the region, had at least one Prussian ancestor. The Prussians were the elite military force of Germany historically.

[Daco Celtic]

I've seen German Americans claim they are Irish. Basically, Americans view 'Irish' as the ideal ethnicity because they were underdogs and they weren't racist but victims of racist and most Americans would rather be called anything but racist. Come to New York city for the Saint Patrick's Day parade and you will see every kind of European American claiming to be Irish. The reality is the Irish are the like Mexicans of Europe and their brother Gods the Scottish have way more achievements in the arts, sciences, and inventions but for some reason Scottish nationalists almost have to kidnap people to join unlike Irish nationalists.

That's all fine. I like Mexicans. Salt of the earth people like Irish. I have no delusions of grandeur. My Irish half is pretty damn authentic (very Cork) so please don't lump me in with the Americans you mention above. Weren't you just claiming to be from Hibernia, at least in part?

[Creoda]

That is because Americans are retardedly obsessed with being 'Irish' so there is a high market demand for that it.

You seem like the opposite side of that coin - you're obsessed with not being Irish, you keep talking about how you're Scottish, or Cornish, or English, or Saxon, whatever suits on the day, as long as it's not the Green Menace.

[JamesBond007]

That's all fine. I like Mexicans. Salt of the earth people like Irish. I have no delusions of grandeur. My Irish half is pretty damn authentic (very Cork) so please don't lump me in with the Americans you mention above. Weren't you just claiming to be from Hibernia, at least in part?

Of course, I am part Irish or Goidelic/Gaidhlig. All Scottish people are. Scotland was founded by a Scotti Gaelic tribe from Northern Ireland that sailed to Dal Riata (Argyll-Bute) Scotland and colonized it and then mixed with the native Picts before eventually much later mixing with teutonic tribes. Mainland Scots are like halfway between the native Irish/Welsh and English/Germanics. Highland Scots can look very Norwegian in the NorthEast but in Shetland and Orkney it is a mix of Norse(viking)-Gaels. I think Orcadians are like 35% viking or something.

[JamesBond007]

You seem like the opposite side of that coin - you're obsessed with not being Irish, you keep talking about how you're Scottish, or Cornish, or English, or Saxon, whatever suits on the day, as long as it's not the Green Menace.

That is only because all these calculators tell me something different. However, it is worth noting that Charles Darwin referred to the Scottish as Saxons and I am pretty sure I am Scottish for instance my dad's name is Gordon etc... Some English dude in California claiming to be Norwegian said I looked Braveheart era Scottish. From Charles Dawin's book "The Descent of Man" :

"The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies like rabbits: the frugal, foreseeing, self-respecting, ambitious Scot, stern in his morality, spiritual in his faith, sagacious and disciplined in his intelligence, passes his best years in struggle and in celibacy, marries late, and leaves few behind him. Given a land originally peopled by a thousand Saxons and a thousand Celts--and in a dozen generations five-sixths of the population would be Celts, but five- sixths of the property, of the power, of the intellect, would belong to the one-sixth of Saxons that remained. In the eternal 'struggle for existence,' it would be the inferior and LESS favoured race that had prevailed--and prevailed by virtue not of its good qualities but of its faults."

https://charles-darwin.classic-liter...ok-page-93.asp

[Grace O'Malley]

That's all fine. I like Mexicans. Salt of the earth people like Irish. I have no delusions of grandeur. My Irish half is pretty damn authentic (very Cork) so please don't lump me in with the Americans you mention above. Weren't you just claiming to be from Hibernia, at least in part?

He used to be claiming that he was Norman French.

Cork is a lovely place and the home of Michael Collins one of the most revered men in Irish history. Mao Tse-tung and Yitzhak Shamir admired Michael Collins for his tactics against the British.

Cork people are not just Irish but from the People's Republic of Cork.

http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/The_Peo...public_of_Cork

It's great you have your grandmother's dna.

[Creoda]

That is only because all these calculators tell me something different. However, it is worth noting that Charles Darwin referred to the Scottish as Saxons and I am pretty sure I am Scottish for instance my dad's name is Gordon etc... Some English dude in California claiming to be Norwegian said I looked Braveheart era Scottish. From Charles Dawin's book "The Descent of Man" :

"The careless, squalid, unaspiring Irishman multiplies like rabbits: the frugal, foreseeing, self-respecting, ambitious Scot, stern in his morality, spiritual in his faith, sagacious and disciplined in his intelligence, passes his best years in struggle and in celibacy, marries late, and leaves few behind him. Given a land originally peopled by a thousand Saxons and a thousand Celts--and in a dozen generations five-sixths of the population would be Celts, but five- sixths of the property, of the power, of the intellect, would belong to the one-sixth of Saxons that remained. In the eternal 'struggle for existence,' it would be the inferior and LESS favoured race that had prevailed--and prevailed by virtue not of its good qualities but of its faults."

https://charles-darwin.classic-liter...ok-page-93.asp

The calculators don't mean squat for NW Europeans. My parents never get their nationalities and I always get Orcadian or Scottish despite having no ancestry from there.