Ancient Peoples and Their Closeness to Today's Peoples

**Sora** · 11-17-2019, 02:29 PM

A Cuman sample from Northeastern Black Sea with 37% Mongoloid (AD 1250):

A Kura-Araxes sample from Armenia (BC 3631-3030):

A crusader sample from Lebanon (CE 1025-1283):

An Ottoman Turkish sample:

A Budhist Mongol soldier from Kazakhstan, Golden Horde era (CE 1260-1370):

Source: https://twitter.com/turkdnaproject

**Sora** · 11-17-2019, 04:03 PM

A Hatii/Luwi sample from Anatolia (BC 2700-2000):

A Thracian sample from Bulgaria (BC 500-400):

**Leto** · 11-17-2019, 04:30 PM

The Cuman was pretty much a mongrelized Iranic hapa. More than half white.

Population
S-Indian 0.62 Pct
Baloch 12.16 Pct
Caucasian 9.39 Pct
NE-Euro 31.01 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 21.35 Pct
NE-Asian 12.56 Pct
Papuan 0.31 Pct
American 1.50 Pct
Beringian 3.26 Pct
Mediterranean 7.30 Pct
SW-Asian -
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African 0.53 Pct

**Sora** · 11-18-2019, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by Leto

The Cuman was pretty much a mongrelized Iranic hapa. More than half white.

Population
S-Indian 0.62 Pct
Baloch 12.16 Pct
Caucasian 9.39 Pct
NE-Euro 31.01 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 21.35 Pct
NE-Asian 12.56 Pct
Papuan 0.31 Pct
American 1.50 Pct
Beringian 3.26 Pct
Mediterranean 7.30 Pct
SW-Asian -
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African 0.53 Pct

Weren't Cumans already described as blond & coloured eyed? Or I know wrong?

**Sora** · 11-18-2019, 01:58 PM

Bump! I'm bored...

**~~Nassbean~~** · 11-18-2019, 02:06 PM

less asiatic results would be interesting too

**savvas** · 11-18-2019, 02:08 PM

Iron Age Italians (Etruscans, Proto-Villanovans, Latins and Aequi):

ITA_Proto-Villanovan:RMPR1 (Proto-Picene?):

ITA_Villanovan:RMPR1015 (early Etruscan):

ITA_Etruscan:RMPR473 (Etruscan):

ITA_Etruscan:RMPR474b (Etruscan):

ITA_Prenestini_tribe_IA:RMPR435b (Latin? Equic?):

ITA_Boville_Ernica_Latini_IA:RMPR1021 (Latin):

ITA_Ardea_Latini_IA:RMPR851 (Latin):

ITA_Rome_Latini_IA:RMPR1016 (Latin):

**~~Kamal900~~** · 11-18-2019, 02:21 PM

Ancient Egyptians from New Kingdom:

Distance to: EGY_Late_Period
0.04819656 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.04939434 Yemenite_Amran
0.05178746 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.05512937 Yemenite_Jew
0.05694519 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.05723044 BedouinA
0.05875959 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.06219038 Palestinian
0.06348335 BedouinB
0.06664471 Saudi
0.06669452 Samaritan
0.06981400 Yemenite_Mahra
0.07289655 Tunisian_Jew
0.07623195 Libyan_Jew
0.07838259 Egyptian
0.07898094 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.08070070 Lebanese_Christian
0.08497977 Karaite_Egypt
0.08757410 Lebanese_Muslim
0.08947886 Lebanese_Druze
0.09099972 Druze
0.09159035 Syrian_Jew
0.09175144 Moroccan_Jew
0.09280638 Syrian
0.09339946 Romaniote_Jew
0.09620588 Cypriot
0.09948567 Sephardic_Jew
0.10050027 Italian_Jew
0.10231033 Iraqi_Jew
0.11334863 Ashkenazi_Jew

Ancient Egyptians from the Hellenistic period:

Distance to: EGY_Hellenistic
0.05517412 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.05914018 Yemenite_Amran
0.06050051 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.06198049 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.06254366 Yemenite_Jew
0.06465316 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.06918032 BedouinA
0.07241956 BedouinB
0.07441549 Saudi
0.07570574 Palestinian
0.07657475 Yemenite_Mahra
0.07802007 Samaritan
0.08271892 Egyptian
0.08690035 Tunisian_Jew
0.09057689 Libyan_Jew
0.09497840 Lebanese_Christian
0.09498329 Karaite_Egypt
0.09722658 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.09990951 Lebanese_Muslim
0.10160428 Lebanese_Druze
0.10372098 Syrian
0.10414060 Druze
0.10470074 Syrian_Jew
0.10583212 Moroccan_Jew
0.10742706 Romaniote_Jew
0.10973706 Cypriot
0.11072658 Sephardic_Jew
0.11193454 Iraqi_Jew
0.11239049 Italian_Jew
0.11677316 Libyan

Guanche Berbers:

Distance to: Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.02140125 Moroccan_North
0.02343083 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.03152961 Mozabite
0.04341673 Tunisian
0.04365939 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.04423089 Algerian
0.05516884 Moroccan
0.05533454 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.06177543 Saharawi
0.06684666 Libyan
0.06844407 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.10696785 Egyptian
0.13649502 BedouinA
0.14599665 Libyan_Jew
0.14709200 Tunisian_Jew
0.14815335 Moroccan_South
0.14889356 Moroccan_Jew
0.14987081 Palestinian
0.15883508 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.16249740 Yemenite_Amran
0.16278432 Spanish_Canarias
0.16449875 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.16951868 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.16974850 French_Corsica_o
0.16994430 Sephardic_Jew
0.17049457 Maltese
0.17110155 BedouinB
0.17182110 Italian_Jew
0.17236822 Syrian
0.17265900 Romaniote_Jew

Early bronze age Canaanites from Jordan:

Distance to: Levant_JOR_EBA
0.04603685 Yemenite_Amran
0.04869554 Yemenite_Jew
0.05061049 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.05219825 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.05365516 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.05403982 Saudi
0.05486274 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.05556854 BedouinB
0.05712025 Samaritan
0.05855453 Yemenite_Mahra
0.06603898 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.06796378 Palestinian
0.07040853 Lebanese_Christian
0.07144077 BedouinA
0.08068767 Lebanese_Druze
0.08141628 Karaite_Egypt
0.08143378 Druze
0.08265329 Lebanese_Muslim
0.08395110 Tunisian_Jew
0.08583775 Libyan_Jew
0.08861979 Cypriot
0.08872535 Iraqi_Jew
0.09016969 Syrian_Jew
0.09071861 Syrian
0.09348832 Romaniote_Jew
0.09904546 Moroccan_Jew
0.09970450 Iranian_Jew
0.10207353 Italian_Jew
0.10276023 Sephardic_Jew
0.10644701 Georgian_Jew

Middle bronze age Canaanites from Syria:

Distance to: Levant_Canaanite_MBA
0.02163410 Samaritan
0.03195107 Lebanese_Christian
0.03386762 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.04151007 Lebanese_Druze
0.04246221 Druze
0.04339633 Karaite_Egypt
0.04670863 Lebanese_Muslim
0.04908774 Iraqi_Jew
0.04917416 Palestinian
0.05182379 Cypriot
0.05407031 Syrian_Jew
0.05765452 Tunisian_Jew
0.05796628 Syrian
0.06024612 Libyan_Jew
0.06174472 Romaniote_Jew
0.06296443 BedouinA
0.06306464 Iranian_Jew
0.06512261 Yemenite_Amran
0.06895342 Georgian_Jew
0.07031022 Assyrian
0.07149612 Sephardic_Jew
0.07336026 Italian_Jew
0.07483236 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07541838 Moroccan_Jew
0.07632598 Armenian
0.07653131 Yemenite_Jew
0.07745022 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.07880402 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.08011390 Greek_Kos
0.08188630 Yemenite_Al_Bayda

Phoenician Roman citizen from Lebanon, 250 AD:

Distance to: Levant_LBN_Roman
0.01966675 Lebanese_Christian
0.02061736 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.02762258 Druze
0.02821432 Lebanese_Druze
0.03079191 Samaritan
0.03357787 Karaite_Egypt
0.03566580 Lebanese_Muslim
0.03677382 Cypriot
0.03969464 Iraqi_Jew
0.04179164 Syrian_Jew
0.04869798 Syrian
0.04879896 Romaniote_Jew
0.05101439 Tunisian_Jew
0.05133929 Palestinian
0.05144003 Iranian_Jew
0.05261906 Libyan_Jew
0.05597960 Georgian_Jew
0.05815836 Assyrian
0.05845857 Sephardic_Jew
0.05992671 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.06076658 Italian_Jew
0.06322510 Armenian
0.06393441 Greek_Kos
0.06515897 Moroccan_Jew
0.06837088 BedouinA
0.07108482 Greek_Crete
0.07177653 Turkish_Trabzon
0.07248527 Ashkenazi_Jew
0.07330208 Italian_Calabria
0.07568694 Italian_Piedmont_o

Cannanites from Israel during the late-middle Bronze age period:

Distance to: Levant_ISR_MLBA
0.04190857 Lebanese_Christian
0.04287756 Samaritan
0.04560430 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.05174498 Lebanese_Druze
0.05240906 Druze
0.05544712 Lebanese_Muslim
0.05575131 Karaite_Egypt
0.05628517 Cypriot
0.05918128 Palestinian
0.06229026 Syrian_Jew
0.06290950 Iraqi_Jew
0.06494678 Romaniote_Jew
0.06510156 Tunisian_Jew
0.06694618 Syrian
0.06769358 Libyan_Jew
0.07149847 BedouinA
0.07293048 Yemenite_Amran
0.07407387 Iranian_Jew
0.07591934 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.07593429 Sephardic_Jew
0.07653994 Italian_Jew
0.07766251 Georgian_Jew
0.07970270 Assyrian
0.08054716 Greek_Kos
0.08099856 Yemenite_Jew
0.08105210 Moroccan_Jew
0.08304668 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.08306441 Armenian
0.08380975 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.08715787 Yemenite_Al_Bayda

Ancient Natufians from the Levant, neolithic period:

Distance to: Levant_Natufian
0.09625471 Yemenite_Mahra
0.10230838 BedouinB
0.10601159 Yemenite_Al_Jawf
0.10677567 Yemenite_Ma'rib
0.10728016 Yemenite_Dhamar
0.10767736 Yemenite_Al_Bayda
0.10777985 Saudi
0.11268040 Yemenite_Jew
0.12034008 Yemenite_Amran
0.14084465 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
0.14091794 Egyptian
0.14155244 Libyan
0.14694403 BedouinA
0.15179403 Tunisian
0.15282649 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.15618300 Moroccan_North
0.15954829 Palestinian
0.16647889 Samaritan
0.17036458 Tunisian_Jew
0.17057231 Mozabite
0.17085131 Algerian
0.17181797 Libyan_Jew
0.17483096 Moroccan
0.17752681 Saharawi
0.18211626 Moroccan_Jew
0.18218463 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.18437171 Lebanese_Christian
0.18521591 Berber_MAR_ERR
0.18737956 Karaite_Egypt
0.18932277 Lebanese_Muslim

**~~Balthier~~** · 11-18-2019, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Sora

A Hatii/Luwi sample from Anatolia (BC 2700-2000):

A Thracian sample from Bulgaria (BC 500-400):

This website is bullshit, they overrepresent the "turkicness" of the anatolian turks. their logic is that turkmens have %15 east asiasn we have %5, therefore we are 1/3 turkic, this is wrong, the Turkmens are also as mixed as we are, the original turkic people who arrived in anatolia had 40%-50% east eurasian admixture.

Also, there never was a confirmed indo-european speaker's remains in anatolia, so that sample cannot be hittite or luwian, it has to be one of the indegenous peoples of anatolia, heavy in CHG