Serb Migrations Map

[Pribislav]

@ Mingle

Archimandrite of Serbian Orthodox Church Danilo Ljubotina is Peroj in Istria https://p-portal.net/danilo-ljubotin...-su-razliciti/
His ancestors settled in Peroj in 1657 from Montenegro, it's mentioned on link from my previous sentence.
He currently live in Belgrade.

[Mingle]

This term was used to mark territories originally encompassed by medieval Serbian state.

Basically Serbia proper (south of the Sava-Danube) and Kosovo, right?

[Jackson78]

Basically Serbia proper (south of the Sava-Danube) and Kosovo, right?

Kosovo and southwestern Serbia primarily.

[Pribislav]

Kosovo and southwestern Serbia primarily.

+ Northern Montenegro, or as Muslims/Bosniaks say "Montenegrin part of Sandžak."

[Jackson78]

+ Northern Montenegro, or as Muslims/Bosniaks say "Montenegrin part of Sandžak."

Yep

[Mingle]

Kosovo and southwestern Serbia primarily.

I included East Serbia and South Serbia as well. I'll edit that part in a bit.

[Jackson78]

„1720s: Brda Montenegro Serbs migrate to eastern Bosnia (Romanija Mountain region)."

This part is also incorrect, Serbs in vicinity of Sarajevo and Romanija mountain are nearly completely ancestrally from area of "Old" Herzegovina which is in present-day Montenegro (especially from clans of Piva and Drobnjak), and also from area od modern-day eastern Herzegovina, part of Republic of Srpska today.

Population of Brda (in present-day Montenegro) migrated mostly to area of Ibarski Kolašin, to northwest parts of Kosovo, Novi Pazar, and Raška, as well as area of central Serbia and parts of western Serbia (area of Golija and municipalities of Ivanjica and Kraljevo, most notably).

[Mingle]

„1720s: Brda Montenegro Serbs migrate to eastern Bosnia (Romanija Mountain region)."

This part is also incorrect, Serbs in vicinity of Sarajevo and Romanija mountain are nearly completely ancestrally from area of "Old" Herzegovina which is in present-day Montenegro (especially from clans of Piva and Drobnjak), and also from area od modern-day eastern Herzegovina, part of Republic of Srpska today.

Population of Brda (in present-day Montenegro) migrated mostly to area of Ibarski Kolašin, to northwest parts of Kosovo, Novi Pazar, and Raška, as well as area of central Serbia and parts of western Serbia (area of Golija and municipalities of Ivanjica and Kraljevo, most notably).

According to the same book I cited earlier, the Ottomans wanted to punish Serbs from Hercegovina, Brda, and Montenegro because they sided with Russia in the Russian-Turkish War so many were killed while some migrated to eastern Bosnia and the Romanija Mountain region. In my map, I forgot to add Hercegovina though.

Here is the screenshot:



I just noticed at the bottom it says that they migrated to northern Serbia after. By "northern Serbia", are they referring to Vojvodina or the northern part of 'Serbia proper'?

I realize the mistake, I will fix it soon (along with the other ones you mentioned).

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Do you have the dates for when Brda Serbs migrated to those regions you mentioned? Also, when did Serbs from Old Hercegovina migrate to eastern Bosnia?

[Jackson78]

According to the same book I cited earlier, the Ottomans wanted to punish Serbs from Hercegovina, Brda, and Montenegro because they sided with Russia in the Russian-Turkish War so many were killed while some migrated to eastern Bosnia and the Romanija Mountain region. In my map, I forgot to add Hercegovina though.

Here is the screenshot:

But according to other etnographical data from beginning of the 20th century, on Romanija and in eastern Bosnia there is no settler current by ancestry from Montenegrin Brda. Afterall, this is also confirmed by lack of genetically profiled kinships characteristic of Montenegrin Brda in aforementioned areas.

I just noticed at the bottom it says that they migrated to northern Serbia after. By "northern Serbia", are they referring to Vojvodina or the northern part of 'Serbia proper'?

I realize the mistake, I will fix it soon (along with the other ones you mentioned).

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Mainly it is referred to migration of Kelmendi to Srem (this migration is genetically confirmed as well). It is also possible that there were some Serbs hailing from Montenegrin Brda in that migration.

Do you have the dates for when Brda Serbs migrated to those regions you mentioned? Also, when did Serbs from Old Hercegovina migrate to eastern Bosnia?

Both migrated to the mentioned regions in 18th century. Migrations to Sarajevo region were frequent in the 19th century as well.

[Mingle]

But according to other etnographical data from beginning of the 20th century, on Romanija and in eastern Bosnia there is no settler current by ancestry from Montenegrin Brda. Afterall, this is also confirmed by lack of genetically profiled kinships characteristic of Montenegrin Brda in aforementioned areas.

Okay, I see. Based on what you said and based on what the source says, it seems that they never settled in eastern Bosnia. They simply stopped there for a while and then moved to Srem where they settled. Their population was probably not very large.

Mainly it is referred to migration of Kelmendi to Srem (this migration is genetically confirmed as well). It is also possible that there were some Serbs hailing from Montenegrin Brda in that migration.

Why did Kelmendis migrate to Srem?

Both migrated to the mentioned regions in 18th century. Migrations to Sarajevo region were frequent in the 19th century as well.

Okay. I listened to all your suggestions and made some edits to the map based on what you said.

If you see more errors or want to suggest more stuff to add, feel free to do so.