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    Quote Originally Posted by Thracian View Post
    It seems they're pretty good calculators.

    I recommend that you should add Iranic samples from Iran (except Bandari), remove Roma (because it also has some European and Iranic admixture) that's why Iranic input are shifting to Roma. Instead of Roma, you can also add South Asian such as Punjabi, Gujarati etc...They will be more efficient to determine Roma ancestry. You can also remove all South Slav Greeks if you want (I can also provide them you because I already did it before)

    I don't know why but I failed to run Classical Age Model. I am trying to figure out the problem. I will also run it if I can fix it.
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    The following line appears twice in the Classical calculator: Celtic:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1,0.1277665,0.1386 2,0.054588,0.0276165,0.041931,0.006554,0.0013512,0 .0032308,0.0199922,0.0261052,-0.0034912,0.0079805,-0.0198088,-0.0204372,0.0130632,0.0071268,0.0079535,0.0024072, 0.0036768,0.0012195,0.007362,0.002875,-0.0036052,-0.0004217,0.003862.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    First spreadsheet
    arget: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2290% / 0.02229005
    Aggregated
    100.0 North-Western_european

    The second model.

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 1.4412% / 0.01441150
    Aggregated
    47.8 Celtic
    46.8 Germanic
    3.4 Roman
    2.0 Hellenic-Balkanic

    I also ran with the default penalty in Poi's Runner and got this,

    "sample": "Test1:Grace_scaled",
    "fit": 2.2284,
    "North-Western_european": 100,

    "sample": "Test1:Grace_scaled",
    "fit": 1.4749,
    "Germanic_England_Saxon": 45.83,
    "Celtic_England_Roman": 29.17,
    "Celtic_England_IA": 15,
    "Celtic_Scotland_LBA": 7.5,
    "Roman": 1.67,
    "Celtic": 0.83,

    I couldn't get the runner to work with this sample in the runner so had to remove it.

    Celtic:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1,0.1277665,0.1386 2,0.054588,0.0276165,0.041931,0.006554,0.0013512,0 .0032308,0.0199922,0.0261052,-0.0034912,0.0079805,-0.0198088,-0.0204372,0.0130632,0.0071268,0.0079535,0.0024072, 0.0036768,0.0012195,0.007362,0.002875,-0.0036052,-0.0004217,0.003862
    The problem is that Celtic:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1 appears twice in the Classical calculator which stops it from functioning.

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    Target: Me_scaled
    Distance: 1.3370% / 0.01337011
    37.0 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
    28.8 Jewish:Italian_Jew
    22.4 Hellenic-Albanian:Greek_Crete
    5.6 Turkic:Turkmen
    5.2 North-Western_european:Belgian
    1.0 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Jew



    Target: Me_scaled
    Distance: 1.2889% / 0.01288917
    51.2 Levantine
    23.0 Roman
    7.2 Hellenic-Balkanic
    6.0 Turkic
    5.6 Anatolian-Caucasian-Armenian
    4.4 Celtic
    2.6 Germanic

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    Distance: 1.7638% / 0.01763810
    Aggregated
    76.8 Sephardic_Jew
    13.4 North-Western_european
    6.8 Eastern_Slavic
    2.6 Turkic
    0.4 Ashkenazi_Jew

    Distance: 2.2669% / 0.02266873
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    45.0 Levantine
    17.4 Celtic
    14.0 Roman
    9.4 Hellenic-Balkanic
    7.2 Balto-Slavic
    3.2 Indo-iranian
    1.8 Germanic
    1.4 Turkic
    0.6 Finnic-Uralic
    Other Y-DNA:
    Maternal 6X Great Grandfather J1-ZS10441
    Maternal Y-DNA J1-L816

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    First spreadsheet
    arget: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 2.2290% / 0.02229005
    Aggregated
    100.0 North-Western_european

    The second model.

    Target: Grace_scaled
    Distance: 1.4412% / 0.01441150
    Aggregated
    47.8 Celtic
    46.8 Germanic
    3.4 Roman
    2.0 Hellenic-Balkanic

    I also ran with the default penalty in Poi's Runner and got this,

    "sample": "Test1:Grace_scaled",
    "fit": 2.2284,
    "North-Western_european": 100,

    "sample": "Test1:Grace_scaled",
    "fit": 1.4749,
    "Germanic_England_Saxon": 45.83,
    "Celtic_England_Roman": 29.17,
    "Celtic_England_IA": 15,
    "Celtic_Scotland_LBA": 7.5,
    "Roman": 1.67,
    "Celtic": 0.83,

    I couldn't get the runner to work with this sample in the runner so had to remove it.

    Celtic:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1,0.1277665,0.1386 2,0.054588,0.0276165,0.041931,0.006554,0.0013512,0 .0032308,0.0199922,0.0261052,-0.0034912,0.0079805,-0.0198088,-0.0204372,0.0130632,0.0071268,0.0079535,0.0024072, 0.0036768,0.0012195,0.007362,0.002875,-0.0036052,-0.0004217,0.003862
    Plastic paddy !

    My results :

    Distance to: Kevin_scaled
    0.02932190 Germanic:England_Saxon:I0769
    0.02950685 Celtic:England_IA:I0156

    0.03005561 Germanic:SVK_Poprad_MA
    0.03161719 Celtic:England_IA:M1489
    0.03382754 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT22
    0.03772228 GermanicEU_MA
    0.03793991 Germanic:England_Saxon:NO3423
    0.03882568 Germanic:England_Saxon:I0773
    0.04181531 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_78
    0.04238501 CelticEU_Lech_EBA:AITI_119
    0.04480755 GermanicNK_BA
    0.04729956 Celtic:Scotland_LBA:I3130
    0.04761962 Celtic:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
    0.04761962 Celtic:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1
    0.04782776 Celtic:England_Roman:6DT23


    Target: Kevin_scaled
    Distance: 1.3497% / 0.01349721

    56.6 Germanic
    39.6 Celtic

    2.0 Turkic
    1.8 Hellenic-Balkanic

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    I replaced Belarusian sample with szolad av2 and get a slightly smaller distance. Finno-ugric pops up as well,maybe some hungarian ancestry? idk

    Target: Karol_scaled
    Distance: 2.2724% / 0.02272367
    Aggregated
    49.8 Balto-Slavic
    29.2 Celtic
    19.8 Germanic
    1.2 Finnic-Uralic

    basically the same results though which points even more to the fact that slavs most likely came from southern belarus area. Mideval russian sample also plots further west than modern belarusians and balts. There must have been different waves of slavic migrations though because when I add Ukrainians to the picture ukrainian and szolad av2 are selected over belarusians.
    Target: Karol_scaled
    Distance: 2.2593% / 0.02259269
    Aggregated
    26.8 Ukrainian
    25.8 Celtic
    24.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    21.8 Germanic
    1.2 Finnic-Uralic
    I wonder if this would be different if we had a southern belarusian average? most likely southern belarus + NW Ukraine equals slavic homeland. Bummer that im only a tad over half slavic according to this calculator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky View Post
    I replaced Belarusian sample with szolad av2 and get a slightly smaller distance. Finno-ugric pops up as well,maybe some hungarian ancestry? idk

    Target: Karol_scaled
    Distance: 2.2724% / 0.02272367
    Aggregated
    49.8 Balto-Slavic
    29.2 Celtic
    19.8 Germanic
    1.2 Finnic-Uralic

    basically the same results though which points even more to the fact that slavs most likely came from southern belarus area. Mideval russian sample also plots further west than modern belarusians and balts. There must have been different waves of slavic migrations though because when I add Ukrainians to the picture ukrainian and szolad av2 are selected over belarusians.
    Target: Karol_scaled
    Distance: 2.2593% / 0.02259269
    Aggregated
    26.8 Ukrainian
    25.8 Celtic
    24.4 HUN_Avar_Szolad
    21.8 Germanic
    1.2 Finnic-Uralic
    I wonder if this would be different if we had a southern belarusian average? most likely southern belarus + NW Ukraine equals slavic homeland. Bummer that im only a tad over half slavic according to this calculator.
    Nice! Could you give me the Szolad_Avar_Av2 coordinates? Thank you

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    Target: Toppo900
    Distance: 2.3240% / 0.02323963
    81.6 Levantine
    9.4 Indo-iranian
    5.2 Germanic
    3.0 Celtic
    0.8 Turkic

    Target: happycow
    Distance: 3.4365% / 0.03436534
    84.8 Levantine
    8.6 Germanic
    4.8 Indo-iranian
    1.8 Turkic

    not very good fits for me and happycow.

    Target: Toppo900
    Distance: 1.2668% / 0.01266771
    61.4 Levantine
    19.2 ARM_MBA
    11.8 Berber
    5.8 Indo-iranian
    1.2 Arabian
    0.6 TZA_Pemba_600BP

    Target: happycow
    Distance: 1.4690% / 0.01468993
    53.2 Levantine
    17.6 ARM_MBA
    13.4 Arabian
    11.2 Berber
    2.4 Indo-iranian
    2.0 TZA_Pemba_600BP
    0.2 Turkic

    Much more better, lol.

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    my mothers results:

    Target: CB
    Distance: 1.6870% / 0.01686968

    45.4 West_Slavic
    41.8 South_Slavs-Carpathic
    8.4 North-Western_european
    3.4 Uralic
    1.0 Hellenic-Albanian

    Target: CB
    Distance: 1.7117% / 0.01711669 | ADC: 0.25x

    45.8 South_Slavs-Carpathic
    45.4 West_Slavic
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    2.8 Uralic
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    Didn't yet have my Hungarian side coordinates when this excellent calc first appeared.

    Target: Mr.G_scaled
    Distance: 1.0173% / 0.01017345 | ADC: 0.25x
    51.8 North-Western_european
    46.0 South_Slavs-Carpathic
    1.4 Romanì
    0.8 Turkic

    Target: Mr.G_scaled
    Distance: 1.2621% / 0.01262106 | ADC: 0.5x
    54.2 North-Western_european
    41.6 South_Slavs-Carpathic
    4.2 West_Slavic


    Hungarian side, isolated.

    Target: MrG-dad_scaled
    Distance: 1.9536% / 0.01953572 | ADC: 0.25x
    66.8 South_Slavs-Carpathic
    26.6 North-Western_european
    4.6 Turkic
    2.0 Romanì

    Target: MrG-dad_scaled
    Distance: 2.1663% / 0.02166295 | ADC: 0.5x
    75.4 South_Slavs-Carpathic
    21.8 North-Western_european
    2.8 Turkic

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