Turkish identity,middleastern or white?

[Aileron]

I think it's best for Turks to simply identify themselves as Eurasians similar to Caucasians. And besides, the whole "middle eastern" thing was invented by the western powers of the old for geo-political reasons which is true for terms live "1st world" and "3rd world" as well which was used by the Americans to distinguish their allies from the allies of the Soviet union during the Cold War.

Agreed my friend, the term middle east is invented by Orientalist Westerners...

[Duffmannn]

Racially speaking Turkey assimilates in some extense to Latin America: three founding races, with many mixed people in different degrees, scarce pure types, and great regional differences (I don´t know if there´s class differences too)

I don´t know how are they culturally, neither leaning western or muslim-arab. But regarding their behavour, the turks I have known are very temperamental, which leans them to the Middle East.

Probably as Latin America, Turkey is a borderline western society, but with native characteristics that distinguish it enough clearly from western (or eastern european) ones. The economical development in both societies is similar, and there are striking similities like a partial drug-oriented economy, political fights between pro-western and nativists (the different types of "nativism" in LatAm could cover a book) and a post-imperial stage plenty of military coups and caudillos.

[Kenshiro]

Who are white? If Georgians are white, we are also white, if Greeks are white, we are also white, if southern italians are white we are also white.
We have a little more eastern+northern asian DNA but that's it.

I don't know, I work with Turkish guys here in Italy (kebap restaurant near Milan) on average the guys I work with, have very dark traits or have very Asian features, people usually realize immediately that I'm not Turkish, yet I'm quite Mediterranean even if of fairly fair complexion and i am Southern Italian (Apulia) in any case I have never considered myself white, we are Mediterranean Europeans, it is very different, however it is very nice how they welcomed me, really like one of the family, I feel really good in that job, very kind people

[Mortimer]

Turks and Bosnians mix with eatch other and Bosnians would not consider them kin if they were not white they would not mix with indian or negroe muslims so the answer is White

[Greywolf]

Turks, Armenians, Greeks then Italians from area between Sicily to Rome looks very closer.
that explains maybe this 4 ethnic group mainly belongs to the Pan Med type.
Only Turks and Armenians has connection with ME but
Turkey has connection with Balkans as Well
Today Turkey is White as much as it is dark and mena.
That applies to if it's not just that Whiteness means having blonde hair

As overall Turkey is white if you think as a whole Caucasian thing, but it may not be the other way round.
Actually Average Turk is pretty much Like Average Italian from middle regions of Italy
am i wrong?

[XT93]

I don't know, I work with Turkish guys here in Italy (kebap restaurant near Milan) on average the guys I work with, have very dark traits or have very Asian features, people usually realize immediately that I'm not Turkish, yet I'm quite Mediterranean even if of fairly fair complexion and i am Southern Italian (Apulia) in any case I have never considered myself white, we are Mediterranean Europeans, it is very different, however it is very nice how they welcomed me, really like one of the family, I feel really good in that job, very kind people

There's quite a high chance you met a kurd, azeri or a very eastern Turk, dark features aren't really common among most Turks, even Levantines aren't really dark. I'm not gonna play the race game, but you likely met Turks but didn't realize they were Turks, but happened to just notice Turks when they look really dark, because the same thing occurs to me when I travel, I'm lightskinned and people don't associate me with Turks unless I say it.

[XT93]

Turks, Armenians, Greeks then Italians from area between Sicily to Rome looks very closer.
that explains maybe this 4 ethnic group mainly belongs to the Pan Med type.
Only Turks and Armenians has connection with ME but
Turkey has connection with Balkans as Well
Today Turkey is White as much as it is dark and mena.
That applies to if it's not just that Whiteness means having blonde hair

As overall Turkey is white if you think as a whole Caucasian thing, but it may not be the other way round.
Actually Average Turk is pretty much Like Average Italian from middle regions of Italy
am i wrong?

Depends if we're talking about Ethnic Turks or Turks by nationality.

[renaissance12]

At least 40 % of all Turks could pass in Italy...( and 15 % of Italians could pass in Lebanon or Siria )

[Melonman]

I dont know exactly myself, but it shouldnt be ruled out their ancestrial language sounds like it came from Uzbekistan