G25 Ancient Calculator

**~~Daos777~~** · 11-21-2019, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by tipirneni

Target: Suresh_T_scaled
Distance: 1.8226% / 0.01822569
56.2DRAVIDIAN
36.8IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
2.4EEF
1.8LAO_LN_BA
1.0WHG
1.0VNM_BA_DongSonCulture
0.8LEVANT

Nice fit.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**Thambi** · 11-21-2019, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by tipirneni

Target: Suresh_T_scaled
Distance: 1.8226% / 0.01822569
56.2 DRAVIDIAN
36.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
2.4 EEF
1.8 LAO_LN_BA
1.0 WHG
1.0 VNM_BA_DongSonCulture
0.8 LEVANT

where did you get SIS BA2, Lao, vnm from? they're not in the set above lol. can you do it with just the data set above? i wanna compare.

here's mine
Target: Thambi_scaled
Distance: 2.9955% / 0.02995465
93.0 DRAVIDIAN
6.0 EEF
0.8 WHG
0.2 AMERO-ASIATIC

Distance to: Thambi_scaled
0.04235482 DRAVIDIAN
0.24381831 CENTRAL-ASIA
0.25118463 IRAN
0.31933581 CHG
0.32068130 STEPPE
0.34440117 SIBERIA
0.37829557 EHG
0.42285030 LEVANT
0.42638133 EEF
0.42822283 AMERO-ASIATIC
0.47017272 ASIA-EAST
0.50352574 AFRICA-NORTHWEST
0.51486128 AUSTRALIA
0.52056483 NORTH-AMERICA
0.52970157 WHG
0.59967183 SOUTH-AMERICA
0.70319983 AFRICA-SOUTHEAST

**~~Daos777~~** · 11-21-2019, 11:35 PM

Fuck you guys and your good fits

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**Daco Celtic** · 11-21-2019, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by JamesBond007

It depends on what kind of European ethnic group you want to belong to as it will vary. Steppe would be the indo-Aryan invasion from the East or what the Nazis were obsessed with I think. The hunter-gatherers were there first and look like Jack Nicholson and Werner Von Braun and Irish Brunns and the EEF farmers were darker in color and gracile.

Yeah, it's subjective, I just wanted other opinions. It might be an interesting thread topic. I like the idea of a person that is half EEF half Steppe and totally devoid of WHG/EHG. It seems civilized.

**tipirneni** · 11-21-2019, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Thambi

where did you get SIS BA2 from? its not on the set above lol. can you do it with just the data set above? i wanna compare.

here's mine
Target: Thambi_scaled
Distance: 2.9955% / 0.02995465
93.0 DRAVIDIAN
6.0 EEF
0.8 WHG
0.2 AMERO-ASIATIC

Distance to: Thambi_scaled
0.04235482 DRAVIDIAN
0.24381831 CENTRAL-ASIA
0.25118463 IRAN
0.31933581 CHG
0.32068130 STEPPE
0.34440117 SIBERIA
0.37829557 EHG
0.42285030 LEVANT
0.42638133 EEF
0.42822283 AMERO-ASIATIC
0.47017272 ASIA-EAST
0.50352574 AFRICA-NORTHWEST
0.51486128 AUSTRALIA
0.52056483 NORTH-AMERICA
0.52970157 WHG
0.59967183 SOUTH-AMERICA
0.70319983 AFRICA-SOUTHEAST

Add following

VNM_BA_all:I2497_all,0.009106,-0.421445,-0.037712,-0.046189,0.122792,0.061914,-0.011516,-0.013615,-0.024543,-0.01221,0.017213,-0.003147,-0.003122,-0.004542,-0.001357,-0.001724,-0.001434,-0.003547,0.005782,-0.005503,0.008984,0.00371,0.020829,0.004579,0.0064 66
VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt779,0.034147,-0.391994,-0.034695,-0.05491,0.126485,0.039602,0.00047,-0.013615,-0.023725,-0.005103,0.018837,0.006444,0.008176,-0.00812,-0.007329,0.014585,-0.011083,0.008108,-0.012821,-0.006378,0.002246,0.017311,-0.002835,-0.005663,-0.006945
VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt781,0.043253,-0.370668,-0.046386,-0.059755,0.139411,0.071675,-0.001175,-0.011769,-0.023316,-0.002734,0.033939,-0.012139,0.006392,-0.016239,0.006107,0.005834,-0.00691,0.010262,0.015084,-0.018759,0.0141,0.002473,0.014666,0.014701,0.01125 6
VNM_LN:Vt777,0.020488,-0.397072,-0.033564,-0.04522,0.132332,0.068049,-0.00846,-0.002308,-0.02577,-0.007836,0.030042,0.000599,-0.00446,-0.009771,0.020087,0.002784,0.009518,-0.005448,0.005028,-0.01113,0.009608,-0.001978,0.013927,-0.008555,0.000958
VNM_LN:Vt778,0.011382,-0.388948,-0.050534,-0.042959,0.12033,0.069165,-0.006345,-0.002077,0.004704,-0.024966,0.047255,0.003147,-0.014271,-0.007432,0.002986,-0.007425,0.013169,-0.004687,-0.002514,0.014257,0.004866,0.018672,-0.013434,-0.001325,0.04287
VNM_LN:Vt833,0.017073,-0.376761,-0.086361,-0.032623,0.152028,0.073906,0.003995,-0.006692,-0.008999,-0.010934,0.097595,0.005095,-0.000595,-0.019955,0.001493,0.003845,0.001434,-0.016723,0,0.01013,-0.021961,0.005317,-0.018117,-0.013134,0.040715
VNM_N_all:I0627_all,-0.001138,-0.390979,-0.052043,-0.033269,0.142796,0.062193,0.004935,-0.006,-0.01309,-0.006014,0.07957,-0.007044,-0.005203,0.009358,0.031759,0.000796,-0.004303,-0.001394,-0.004651,0.016258,0.000749,0.005441,-0.004807,0.005543,0.037362
VNM_N_all:I1137_all,0.001138,-0.382855,-0.077687,-0.028747,0.12587,0.058567,0.00235,-0.015922,-0.014521,-0.023144,0.059597,0.004046,0.001189,-0.006606,0.002172,-0.007027,0.002086,0.002914,0.000628,0.014382,-0.007736,0.011376,0.010846,-0.018316,0.030656
LAO_BA:La727,0.002276,-0.380824,-0.079195,-0.03553,0.148643,0.06777,-0.00047,-0.013615,0.00409,-0.020593,0.082006,0.007643,-0.022002,0.005643,0.004614,-0.004375,0.000782,-0.001774,-0.006411,0.019509,-0.011854,0.014096,-0.008627,-0.005663,0.036643
LAO_Hoabinhian:La368,-0.025041,-0.224432,-0.11917,0.087856,0.022466,-0.001952,-0.003055,0.01223,0.060539,0.018406,0.012829,0.0011 99,-0.000446,0.006055,-0.007872,-0.006364,-0.00352,-0.00076,-0.005531,0.023386,0.006988,0.013107,-0.017131,-0.001325,0.003712
LAO_LN_BA:La364,0.005691,-0.40215,-0.083721,-0.034561,0.15049,0.078089,-0.002585,-0.012692,-0.006136,-0.018588,0.089801,0.004346,-0.012785,0.010184,0.003393,-0.005701,-0.002477,0.0019,-0.00088,0.026388,-0.016845,0.02201,-0.011955,0.001325,0.039038
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11456,0.039838,-0.042652,-0.180641,0.100453,-0.107405,0.049364,0.00423,-0.001385,0.00225,0.001458,-0.004709,0.001948,0.003419,-0.002615,0.007057,0.016043,-0.002999,-0.001014,0.006662,-0.02051,-0.00025,-0.014591,-0.007888,-0.018316,0.00455
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11459,0.045529,-0.035544,-0.162162,0.101422,-0.09848,0.05773,0.00329,0.019153,0.020861,0.010205 ,-0.01153,0.008093,0.002676,0.003303,0.001629,-0.010209,-0.017602,0.001394,-0.003771,-0.015507,0.004367,-0.011747,0.000863,-0.016267,-0.002874
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11466,0.044391,-0.020311,-0.171213,0.076551,-0.104635,0.054105,0.010105,-0.010384,-0.00225,0.019499,-0.008282,0.014237,-0.007136,-0.012386,0.018187,0.026783,0.011865,0.010135,0.003 017,-0.014632,0.00836,-0.013973,0.003081,-0.006266,0.008023
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8726,0.055773,0.016248,-0.151225,0.071383,-0.114791,0.055499,0.011516,0.006,-0.029042,-0.023508,0.000812,0.005245,-0.002379,-0.01101,0.017915,0.014983,-0.011735,0.00076,-0.001257,-0.022011,-0.001373,-0.017311,-0.001602,-0.016147,0.004191
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305

**~~JamesBond007~~** · 11-21-2019, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Daos777

I don’t get how my EHG doesn’t get added to Steppe. Steppe people were very EHG weren’t they?

I guess that depends on whether Steppe is linked to Yamnaya culture or not but the ancient Steppe belt area is much larger than the Yamnaya culture AFAIK. I dunno, I'm not an expert on this. I'm man enough to admit when I am not sure about something as no one can possibly know everything.

**Thambi** · 11-21-2019, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by tipirneni

Add following

VNM_BA_all:I2497_all,0.009106,-0.421445,-0.037712,-0.046189,0.122792,0.061914,-0.011516,-0.013615,-0.024543,-0.01221,0.017213,-0.003147,-0.003122,-0.004542,-0.001357,-0.001724,-0.001434,-0.003547,0.005782,-0.005503,0.008984,0.00371,0.020829,0.004579,0.0064 66
VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt779,0.034147,-0.391994,-0.034695,-0.05491,0.126485,0.039602,0.00047,-0.013615,-0.023725,-0.005103,0.018837,0.006444,0.008176,-0.00812,-0.007329,0.014585,-0.011083,0.008108,-0.012821,-0.006378,0.002246,0.017311,-0.002835,-0.005663,-0.006945
VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt781,0.043253,-0.370668,-0.046386,-0.059755,0.139411,0.071675,-0.001175,-0.011769,-0.023316,-0.002734,0.033939,-0.012139,0.006392,-0.016239,0.006107,0.005834,-0.00691,0.010262,0.015084,-0.018759,0.0141,0.002473,0.014666,0.014701,0.01125 6
VNM_LN:Vt777,0.020488,-0.397072,-0.033564,-0.04522,0.132332,0.068049,-0.00846,-0.002308,-0.02577,-0.007836,0.030042,0.000599,-0.00446,-0.009771,0.020087,0.002784,0.009518,-0.005448,0.005028,-0.01113,0.009608,-0.001978,0.013927,-0.008555,0.000958
VNM_LN:Vt778,0.011382,-0.388948,-0.050534,-0.042959,0.12033,0.069165,-0.006345,-0.002077,0.004704,-0.024966,0.047255,0.003147,-0.014271,-0.007432,0.002986,-0.007425,0.013169,-0.004687,-0.002514,0.014257,0.004866,0.018672,-0.013434,-0.001325,0.04287
VNM_LN:Vt833,0.017073,-0.376761,-0.086361,-0.032623,0.152028,0.073906,0.003995,-0.006692,-0.008999,-0.010934,0.097595,0.005095,-0.000595,-0.019955,0.001493,0.003845,0.001434,-0.016723,0,0.01013,-0.021961,0.005317,-0.018117,-0.013134,0.040715
VNM_N_all:I0627_all,-0.001138,-0.390979,-0.052043,-0.033269,0.142796,0.062193,0.004935,-0.006,-0.01309,-0.006014,0.07957,-0.007044,-0.005203,0.009358,0.031759,0.000796,-0.004303,-0.001394,-0.004651,0.016258,0.000749,0.005441,-0.004807,0.005543,0.037362
VNM_N_all:I1137_all,0.001138,-0.382855,-0.077687,-0.028747,0.12587,0.058567,0.00235,-0.015922,-0.014521,-0.023144,0.059597,0.004046,0.001189,-0.006606,0.002172,-0.007027,0.002086,0.002914,0.000628,0.014382,-0.007736,0.011376,0.010846,-0.018316,0.030656
LAO_BA:La727,0.002276,-0.380824,-0.079195,-0.03553,0.148643,0.06777,-0.00047,-0.013615,0.00409,-0.020593,0.082006,0.007643,-0.022002,0.005643,0.004614,-0.004375,0.000782,-0.001774,-0.006411,0.019509,-0.011854,0.014096,-0.008627,-0.005663,0.036643
LAO_Hoabinhian:La368,-0.025041,-0.224432,-0.11917,0.087856,0.022466,-0.001952,-0.003055,0.01223,0.060539,0.018406,0.012829,0.0011 99,-0.000446,0.006055,-0.007872,-0.006364,-0.00352,-0.00076,-0.005531,0.023386,0.006988,0.013107,-0.017131,-0.001325,0.003712
LAO_LN_BA:La364,0.005691,-0.40215,-0.083721,-0.034561,0.15049,0.078089,-0.002585,-0.012692,-0.006136,-0.018588,0.089801,0.004346,-0.012785,0.010184,0.003393,-0.005701,-0.002477,0.0019,-0.00088,0.026388,-0.016845,0.02201,-0.011955,0.001325,0.039038
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11456,0.039838,-0.042652,-0.180641,0.100453,-0.107405,0.049364,0.00423,-0.001385,0.00225,0.001458,-0.004709,0.001948,0.003419,-0.002615,0.007057,0.016043,-0.002999,-0.001014,0.006662,-0.02051,-0.00025,-0.014591,-0.007888,-0.018316,0.00455
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11459,0.045529,-0.035544,-0.162162,0.101422,-0.09848,0.05773,0.00329,0.019153,0.020861,0.010205 ,-0.01153,0.008093,0.002676,0.003303,0.001629,-0.010209,-0.017602,0.001394,-0.003771,-0.015507,0.004367,-0.011747,0.000863,-0.016267,-0.002874
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11466,0.044391,-0.020311,-0.171213,0.076551,-0.104635,0.054105,0.010105,-0.010384,-0.00225,0.019499,-0.008282,0.014237,-0.007136,-0.012386,0.018187,0.026783,0.011865,0.010135,0.003 017,-0.014632,0.00836,-0.013973,0.003081,-0.006266,0.008023
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8726,0.055773,0.016248,-0.151225,0.071383,-0.114791,0.055499,0.011516,0.006,-0.029042,-0.023508,0.000812,0.005245,-0.002379,-0.01101,0.017915,0.014983,-0.011735,0.00076,-0.001257,-0.022011,-0.001373,-0.017311,-0.001602,-0.016147,0.004191
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305

I get no dravidian when i use both. i just get SISBA2 with rest EEF and vietnam/lao split. btw can you post with just the data set in op? without the set you posted above? thanks

Target: Thambi_scaled
Distance: 2.2953% / 0.02295340
92.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
3.8 EEF
3.2 VNM_BA_DongSonCulture
0.8 LAO_Hoabinhian

Distance to: Thambi_scaled
0.04235482 DRAVIDIAN
0.04602303 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728
0.05389782 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11459
0.07294521 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11456
0.09430831 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11466
0.13831054 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8726
0.22363119 LAO_Hoabinhian:La368
0.24381831 CENTRAL-ASIA
0.25118463 IRAN
0.31933581 CHG
0.32068130 STEPPE
0.34440117 SIBERIA
0.37829557 EHG
0.42285030 LEVANT
0.42638133 EEF
0.42780670 VNM_N_all:I1137_all
0.42822283 AMERO-ASIATIC
0.43739300 VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt781
0.43784084 VNM_LN:Vt778
0.44193053 VNM_LN:Vt833
0.44205328 LAO_BA:La727
0.44717936 VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt779
0.45138728 VNM_LN:Vt777
0.45199247 VNM_N_all:I0627_all
0.45993195 LAO_LN_BA:La364

**tipirneni** · 11-21-2019, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Thambi

I get no dravidian when i use both. i just get SISBA2 with rest EEF and vietnam/lao split. btw can you post with just the data set in op? without the set you posted above? thanks

Target: Thambi_scaled
Distance: 2.2953% / 0.02295340
92.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
3.8 EEF
3.2 VNM_BA_DongSonCulture
0.8 LAO_Hoabinhian

Distance to: Thambi_scaled
0.04235482 DRAVIDIAN
0.04602303 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728
0.05389782 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11459
0.07294521 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11456
0.09430831 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11466
0.13831054 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8726
0.22363119 LAO_Hoabinhian:La368
0.24381831 CENTRAL-ASIA
0.25118463 IRAN
0.31933581 CHG
0.32068130 STEPPE
0.34440117 SIBERIA
0.37829557 EHG
0.42285030 LEVANT
0.42638133 EEF
0.42780670 VNM_N_all:I1137_all
0.42822283 AMERO-ASIATIC
0.43739300 VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt781
0.43784084 VNM_LN:Vt778
0.44193053 VNM_LN:Vt833
0.44205328 LAO_BA:La727
0.44717936 VNM_BA_DongSonCulture:Vt779
0.45138728 VNM_LN:Vt777
0.45199247 VNM_N_all:I0627_all
0.45993195 LAO_LN_BA:La364

Target: Suresh_T_scaled
Distance: 2.2280% / 0.02227994
92.4 DRAVIDIAN
4.4 EEF
1.4 WHG
1.0 ASIA-EAST
0.6 CENTRAL-ASIA
0.2 AFRICA-NORTHWEST