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    Charlesmagne was one of the great kinds of medieval Europe. He was coronated by the pope in 800 A.D. and spread the faith of Christianity by sword and conversion. Charlesmagne therefore is controversial, but this 30-mintue video tells his story quickly. Ryan M. Reeves (PhD Cambridge) is Assistant Professor of Historical Theology at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.



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    Franks were germans

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Franks were germans
    Franks were a Germanic tribe not Germans... two different things.

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    "As soon as he was in sole command, in 771, Charlemagne sat to work on his project. His purpose ? To perpetuate Rome. In Italy, he defeats the king of the Lombards and he will take the crown of iron from him. He moves to Spain : it will be his only failure. But the Ronceveaux disaster, Roland's horn, serve his glory and his legend : his epic becomes national. Most of all, his master idea was to get it over with Germania, to tame and civilise those barbarians, impose the roman peace on them. On the fifty-three campaigns of his reign, eighteen of them had one target : submitting the Saxons. Charlemagne went further than the legions, consuls and emperors of Rome had never gone. He reached the Elbe. "We have, said he proudly, reduced the country as a province according to the antic roman custom." So he became for Germany what Julius Caesar had been for Gaul. But the matter is ingrate and rebellious. Witiking may have been the hero of the Germanic independence, like Vercingetorix had been the hero of the Gallic independence. The result was pretty different. Nobody saw, among the ancient Germans, the enthusiasm to adopt the victor's habits that had made the Roman Gaul. Their idols were smashed, but they kept their language and, with their language, their spirit. Germania has been civilised and christianised against its will and the success of Charlemagne was more seeming than deep. For "Francia", the people on the other side of the Rhine, defiant to latinity, stay dangerous neighbours, always inclined to invasions. Germany claims that Charlemagne was the first of its big national sovereigns. It's a huge misinterpretation. The fake Germanic Caesars have never followed the master idea, the Roman idea of Charlemagne : one united Christianity. The people of that time gave themselves over to the illusion that Germania had joined the Christian community, was won over to civilisation and not dangerous anymore for its western neighbours. But Charlemagne was the continuation of Marcus-Aurelius and Trajan. He had protected Europe from other barbarians, the Slavics and the Mongols. His power was extended up to the Danube. The Western Empire was restored like he had wanted. He only missed the imperial crown. He received it from the hands of the Pope, in 800, and the people, with the new Augustus, believed that times were tied up. Ephemeral restoration. But the title of Emperor will keep such a prestige that, one thousand years later, it's again this title that Napolean will take."

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