Which major World War II leader would you rather have running your country today?

[Sarmatian]

You can't be serious, are today russians really like him?

By some estimates his approval is close to 90%. Far above any other leader ever run the country.

[Kamal900]

By some estimates his approval is close to 90%. Far above any other leader ever run the country.

Um, are you guys aware on what Stalin did in the past?

[Sarmatian]

Within a few decades Churchill is going to be viewed as one of the most atrocious leader in history. Brits are going to despise him too for intentionally ruining the Empire.

[Sarmatian]

Um, are you guys aware on what Stalin did in the past?

Yeah sure, he won the worst war humanity ever seen.

[FinalFlash]

None of the above. I'd rather have Garegin Nzhdeh run my country.

[♥ Lily ♥]

None of them tbh. What a lousy choice.

The elitist Sir Winston Churchill is often praised as 'a great man' in many books (written by the elite and upper middle classes, of course,) but you don't hear the views of the millions of ordinary people of that era who lived under Churchill.

Millions of ordinary UK people suffered under Churchill and were forced to go to war with Germany after the Nazis had invaded Poland.

You'll see old photos of wealthy Churchill casually sitting back, looking relaxed and safe, sipping champagne and smoking on his fat cigars... whilst millions of ordinary and poor UK people were getting bombed during the Blitz on Great Britain, were living on food rations, routine street blackouts of lighting each evening, etc.

If Churchill was such a great leader like he's portrayed in books and in the media... then why was he immediately voted out of power by the UK people at the first available General Election after the war?!

(Mind you, looking at the other choices.... I think I'd probably opt for Churchill out of the crappy choices rather than the even worse leaders on that list who also made millions of people suffer in their nations too, and many of whom were suffering even worse under Stalin, Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, etc.)

[Kamal900]

None of them tbh. What a lousy choice.

The elitist Sir Winston Churchill is often praised as 'a great man' in many books (written by the elite and upper middle classes, of course,) but you don't hear the views of the millions of ordinary people of that era who lived under Churchill.

Millions of ordinary UK people suffered under Churchill and were forced to go to war with Germany after the Nazis had invaded Poland.

You'll see old photos of wealthy Churchill casually sitting back, looking relaxed and safe, sipping champagne and smoking on his fat cigars... whilst millions of ordinary and poor UK people were getting bombed during the Blitz on Great Britain, were living on food rations, routine street blackouts of lighting each evening, etc.

If Churchill was such a great leader like he's portrayed in books and in the media... then why was he immediately voted out of power by the UK people at the first available General Election after the war?!

Don't forget that he basically was responsible for the deaths of millions of Bengalis by famine during the war, and it's obviously that he cares less about the English and more for his master..I believe you know who I'm talking about. I believe most of the English didn't want to go to war against Hitler, and do believe in more peaceful solutions to the conflict, but it's obvious that Churchill wasn't interested in peace.

[♥ Lily ♥]

Don't forget that he basically was responsible for the deaths of millions of Bengalis by famine during the war, and it's obviously that he cares less about the English and more for his master..I believe you know who I'm talking about. I believe most of the English didn't want to go to war against Hitler, and do believe in more peaceful solutions to the conflict, but it's obvious that Churchill wasn't interested in peace.

You can see old video footage on YT of the UK Prime Minister Lord Chamberlain wining and dining with Hitler and getting along fine with him, (afterall Great Britain had the world's most powerful empire at the time of WW2, and the British were the first to invent concentration camps in Africa and India... long before Hitler copied as he wanted an empire too. The British Empire was extremely racist and imperial... and the British Empire slaughtered millions of Africans, Indians, Amerindians, Aboriginal Australians, etc.)

Hitler killed millions of Poles and Europeans and caused much suffering upon Europeans, (yet he's strangely portrayed by neo-nazi hipsters as a 'white icon' ).... and 20 million Russians suffered and died during WW2.

Lord Chamberlain didn't seem concerned about Jews in concentration camps in Germany when he was seen in old video footage meeting with Hitler and wining and dining with him.



It wasn't until Germany invaded Poland (who the UK and France were both allied with,) that Lord Chamberlain and the French leader then declared war on Germany. The ordinary UK people didn't want to be dragged into that war though, but they had no choice and were forced to serve in the military.


Lord Chambelain (on the right) shaking hands with Benito Mussolini

Lord Chamberlain was the the Prime Minister of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, (Lord Chamberlain had made a deal agreement with the founder of the IRA and IRA leader Michael Collins, (who was later executed by the IRA for making this deal agreement with Lord Chamberlain,) that the Irish would hand over control of the 6 counties of Northern Ireland to the British government - and the British troops would then be withdrawn from the rest of Ireland. Michael Collins hastily agreed to the deal of sacrificing Northern Ireland so that the rest of Ireland could become independent from Great Britain.)



Lord Neville Chamberlain, along with the French leader, had previously both issued an ultimatum and warning to Germany to withdraw their troops from Poland by a certain deadline... of which the Nazis refused to obey. So when the German troops didn't obey the clear instructions and orders issued to them by the UK and French governments to withdraw from Poland (who the U.K. and France were allied with) by the deadline time, Great Britain and France then declared war on Germany.

3rd September 1939: Great Britain and France declare war on Germany

Great Britain and France are at war with Germany following the invasion of Poland two days ago.

At 11:15 BST the Prime Minister, Neville Chamberlain, announced the British deadline for the withdrawal of German troops from Poland had expired.

He said the British ambassador to Berlin had handed a final note to the German government this morning saying unless it announced plans to withdraw from Poland by 11:00, a state of war would exist between the two countries.

Mr Chamberlain continued: "I have to tell you now that no such undertaking has been received and consequently this country is at war with Germany."

Similarly the French issued an ultimatum, which was presented in Berlin at 12:30, saying France would be at war unless a 17:00 deadline for the troops' withdrawal was adhered to.

King George has called upon "my people at home and my peoples across the seas".

He continued: "I ask them to stand calm, firm and united in this time of trial. The task will be hard. There may be dark days ahead and war can no longer be confined to the battlefield. But we can only do the right as we see the right and reverently commit our cause to God."

A War Cabinet of nine members has been set up with two new ministers, including Winston Churchill as First Lord of the Admiralty, the post he held at the outbreak of World War I. Lord Hankey becomes Minister without Portfolio.

Anthony Eden will take over as Dominions Secretary with special access to the War Cabinet. Mr Eden resigned from the post of Secretary of Foreign Affairs last year because he disagreed with the policy of appeasement.

The National Service (Armed Forces) Act has been passed making all men between 18 and 41 liable for conscription. The armed forces have already been mobilized for war and in July the first Territorial Army conscripts were called up.

Latest reports from Poland say the Germans have bombed a number of towns and cities, some with little or no strategic importance. About 1,500 are reported to have been killed or injured in the attacks on Friday and Saturday.

In his broadcast to the nation, Mr Chamberlain spoke of his sadness that "the long struggle to win peace" had failed.

He continued: "I cannot believe that there is anything more or anything different that I could have done and that would have been more successful."

Yesterday there was anger in the House of Commons over the Government's apparent delay in taking action against Germany.

Labour's deputy leader Arthur Greenwood had accused the Prime Minister of vacillating when "Britain and all that Britain stands for are in peril".

Today's declaration of war was received with rousing cheers. As Mr Chamberlain informed the House Britain could not take part in a five-power conference proposed by Italy while Poland was being invaded.

It has also been received with great enthusiasm in the Polish capital, Warsaw, where crowds took to the streets outside the British and French embassies cheering and singing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/3493279.stm

Lord Chamberlain warned in a speech made in 1940 (a year after declaring war on Germany after the invasion of Poland which led to the fallout with Hitler) at 0:35 that the envious Germans would rejoice to see the ruin and end of the British Empire... so the Germans could take over ruling the world instead.


Sir Winston Churchill



Sir Winston Churchill later took over from Lord Neville Chamberlain as the U.K. Prime Minister... and Churchill had powerful family connections in the U.S. Great Britain also brought in the Royal Canadian military forces, the Royal Australian and New Zealand military forces, the elite and much-feared Gurkha fighters, and numerous others from the British Commonwealth nations to help Great Britain.

Modern-day people argue that although Sir Winston Churchill was fighting against the Nazis from having an empire and ruling over nations to rival Great Britain in the competitive nature of the world, and people say he liberated us from the threat of tyranny... but on the other hand Sir Winston Churchill was also a white supremacist who was in charge of the extremely racist and imperial British Empire which had concentration camps in Africa and India.

This video clip shows the concentration death camps the British set-up in India, and justified their actions with Social Darwinism and 'survival of the fittest species' being the scientific lore of nature.



The Dutch symphonic-metal band 'Within Temptation' made this song called 'Our Solemn Hour' with speech clips and soundbite recordings of Sir Winston Churchill included in their song.

They said the song is to show the pre-war propaganda fed to people in the prelude to wars, and the suffering and misery that people bring on themselves in being sucked-in by the pre-war propanganda. Millions of people in the UK suffered, and were badly injured and killed as a result of WW2. The French were invaded as a result of declaring war on Germany after the Nazis invaded Poland.

The British Empire collapsed after WW2 as the UK had to spend decades paying huge debts to the U.S. for their help during WW2.

The U.S. took over from Great Britain as the world's superpower... and it was only after WW2 that the U.K. government then had to bring in loads of non-European immigrants from the British Commonwealth nations to the UK after WW2 to help rebuild our heavily bombed nation, as many of our young men were badly wounded or had died, and there was a shortage of labour workers.

The xenophobic English people didn't like the new immigrants to the U.K. and for decades they placed signs and notices on the doors and windows of cafes, bars, restaurants, hotels, etc, stating, 'No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs Allowed' in their premises. The English didn't trust the new migrants.




The band said that when people look back in time, they realise that those wars and all the suffering and misery inflicted onto millions of people could have been prevented. The Dutch band said that sadly people still don't learn with the modern wars today that they're led to getting involved in, and are still being misled by pre-war propaganda. (Loads of our young men have being badly wounded or have died in the expensive Middle East wars for example, and it's led to loads of rapefugees now living in our country, and numerous terrorist bombs back on our island.)

('Sanctus Espiritus' is also frequently cried out in the song which is Ancient Latin for 'Holy Spirit,' along with the words 'insanity is all around us!')

[Kamal900]

I love that band, lol. This is my favorite song from them:


Ah, the early 2010's..how time flies.