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    I’m not denying that I’m just talking about the most important genetic inputs in Latin American countries and where in the categories I made would it put them closer(Either Indio-Europeo, Afro-Europeo or Predominantly European). Colombia and Venezuela where a bit trickier since those two countries are pretty triracial and vary between regions but the coast of of both of them seem to have a significant African input(even on the Colombian one, where a lot of slave centered novelas are shot) while the Andean highlands are more Harnizo/Mestizo/castizo and more in line with Northern Mexico

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    Mexico (mestizo a good amount of european genes 55%)

    Peru Cholo


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    This is like comparing the whole country when I compared only one region/state which is pretty cholo, idk why you’re still going I already agreed with you that Mexico is far more diverse when it comes to European ancestry.

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    Venezuela because their whites are similar to argentines, uruguayans and white brazilians while their brown people are close to the rest of latin american nations in some degree. I would say Brazil, but Brazil lacks of mestizos/euro-mestizos which are the opus-magnus of the hispanic-american group(that are in Paraguay, Chile and Mexico) something that Venezuela has.[

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    I just split Venezuela into two groups into the Indio-Europeo group and the Afro-Europeo group since it seems more diverse similar to Colombia, but most Venezuelans live in the coast and that region has a fair share of Afro descendants/ancestry. I separated the countries into 3 groups because some of them lack the high European, African or Indigenous ancestry that it didn’t seem to make sense to put them in the same group. Overall European ancestry seems to dominate Latin America since one of the few to have a category of they’re own regardless of other ancestries. It is dominated by Argentina with tiny little Uruguay following due to they’re most important inputs being Spanish and Italian not indigenous or African being even in the second important input.

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    Oh I see where your coming from now and yeah I guess White/Black looking Latinos won’t arouse suspicion in Lima since the more diverse city in Peru(nobody ever looks at my aunt different and she looks black, they’re actually not as rare as some people think I’m Lima) but the other regions are more heavily Amerindian and I’ve never been there so I could imagine it probably would. The reason I put Southern Mexico in-line with Peru, Ecuador, Guatemala and Bolivia is because it’s the only region outside of the Andes where high Amerindian is the norm but not that didn’t mean I don’t agree there aren’t differences. Northern Mexico on the other hand seems more Balanced and Pred. Euro like Andean Colombia, Chile, Paraguay and Costa Rica don’t know if you agree with that or not. I guess states in southern Mexico are like Lima Pred. Amerindian but diverse but since Peru is a big country the rest of it is more homogenous. I agree with where your coming from now.
    Northern Peru (Trujillo, Chiclayo, Piura, etc.) is at least as mixed as Lima (and has about the same number of majority European looking people imho). Southern Peru is less mixed and more indigenous (Puno, Cusco ,etc.).

    This study is pretty accurate when it comes to Peru imho
    https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1004572

    (I lived in Peru for 6 years btw, so I know the country pretty well)

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    Yeah not a bad study, I think that red dot in the map is Pozuzo which is a German-Austrian village in the middle of the Peruvian Andes. Overall Southern Peru is very indigenous barley if any mixed compared to the coastal regions and the northwest on the border of Peru. My mother’s side which has African ancestry has relatives in the northwest as well.

    I would say the Indio-Europeo countries are the least European in comparison to the Afro-Europeo and the Pred.European countries due to having a lot of Indo-mestizo countries in the category. But it’s funny because I was on reddit and some Filipinos on 23andme got 15% European and thought that was very high European ancestry where compared to even that is low. The overall lowest European region in the Americas is the Black-Asian region(Trinidad and Tobago) along with the Anglo-French-Dutch Caribbean countries.

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    Almost correct.
    But in Argentina 75/80% (in Buenos Aires) of the population have some degree of mixed (just amerindian, not SSA).
    In most cases that degree is very little / tiny for that reason in around 60/65% of the population is not noticeable in the phenotype.
    Even though if your statements are about phenotype / looking they are totally correct.

    Buenos Aires genetic graphs.


    =/= areas of the country genetic graphs.


    =/= cities racial % in the DNA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thetruth View Post
    Yeah not a bad study, I think that red dot in the map is Pozuzo which is a German-Austrian village in the middle of the Peruvian Andes. Overall Southern Peru is very indigenous barley if any mixed compared to the coastal regions and the northwest on the border of Peru. My mother’s side which has African ancestry has relatives in the northwest as well.
    Yeah true Pozuzo is a German-Austrian village. I have never been there but I have heard about it.

    Last edited by Leon77; 11-24-2019 at 11:48 PM.

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    It is, it’s on the border between the Andes and jungle you can check it in maps and it’s practically on the same part of the map. Plus it checks out

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