East Slavic gedmatch results

**Slavic Italian** · 12-02-2019, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

so you ask Ukrainians and Russians if we know if Belgorod is in Russia? What question is this?
that list also has two Ukrainian samples from Poland:
NA7846664 UkrainePol19
XJ7271625 UkrainePol25

are you gonna ask us if we know about the country Poland or what?

I'm sure the Russians are aware of Poland. You Ukrainians I am not so certain.

**Lemgrant** · 12-02-2019, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Slavic Italian

I'm sure the Russians are aware of Poland. You Ukrainians I am not so certain.

...ok

also be aware of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZxB1x-zb_w

**Slavic Italian** · 12-02-2019, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

...ok

also be aware of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZxB1x-zb_w

Like I give two shits. We are still the most dominant nation in the world.

**Peterski** · 12-04-2019, 08:14 AM

In Global25, Ukrainian average is closer to Poles than to all Russians and Belarusians:

Also other West Slavs are always closer to Ukrainians than to Russians & Belarusians:

Czechs are even closer to Bosnians than they are to East Slavs except for Ukrainians:

When we add all East Slavs together, Ukrainians are just a minority (ethnic Russians are the majority).

When we add all West Slavs together, Poles are the majority (all others combined are less numerous).

Conclusion? Ukrainians are outliers among East Slavs. Maybe because Ukraine was part of the Kingdom of Poland since 1340 (western part) and 1569 (central-eastern part) and Polish lords carried out extensive colonization of much of Ukraine, bringing settlers, including peasants, from further west.

I'm not sure why some assume that Ukrainians "preserved ancient genetics", maybe they don't know the demographic history of Ukraine?

The few Proto-Slavic samples we have so far - such as AV2 from Szolad - aren't very close to Ukrainians.

Poles are typical West Slavs because we are 2/3 of all West Slavs in the world, so we define the category.

Ukrainians do not define what it means to be East Slavic - Russians do, because they are the majority.

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Edit:

Perhaps splitting Global25 Ukrainian into West_Ukrainian and East_Ukrainian would make it more obvious that the former are West Slavs.

**~~Cumansky~~** · 12-04-2019, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Peterski

In Global25, Ukrainian average is closer to Poles than to all Russians and Belarusians:

Also other West Slavs are always closer to Ukrainians than to Russians & Belarusians:

Czechs are even closer to Bosnians than they are to East Slavs except for Ukrainians:

When we add all East Slavs together, Ukrainians are just a minority (ethnic Russians are the majority).

When we add all West Slavs together, Poles are the majority (all others combined are less numerous).

Conclusion? Ukrainians are outliers among East Slavs. Maybe because Ukraine was part of the Kingdom of Poland since 1340 (western part) and 1569 (central-eastern part) and Polish lords carried out extensive colonization of much of Ukraine, bringing settlers, including peasants, from further west.

I'm not sure why some assume that Ukrainians "preserved ancient genetics", maybe they don't know the demographic history of Ukraine?

The few Proto-Slavic samples we have so far - such as AV2 from Szolad - aren't very close to Ukrainians.

Poles are typical West Slavs because we are 2/3 of all West Slavs in the world, so we define the category.

Ukrainians do not define what it means to be East Slavic - Russians do, because they are the majority.

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Edit:

Perhaps splitting Global25 Ukrainian into West_Ukrainian and East_Ukrainian would make it more obvious that the former are West Slavs.

Lol, your a fool. Shut your mouth or your keyboard fingers. My Mother is Ukrainian and from Cossacks but she is getting Southwest Russian, according to your theory I am purest Slav then, but my Mother is actually 17% Egyptian and 33% Moroccan Jewish in GEDmatch

Ukrainians and South Polish have most important and archaic genetic of any Slavic created subdivisions post 1945 that idiots like you are brainwashed by East, West, or South. If this wasn't true why I score 100% East Europe in commercial calcs? And bum as you score 40-50% Northwest Europe? What bum race are you? 40-50% Northwest Europe and your pretending as a Slav? This shit is hilarious

Don't worry about where Ukrainians ancestors came from you bum, cause you don't know and I know but explaining to you is not important, and is complex explanation not some BS that you are saying and why are you Polish nationalist? None of you niggas are Polish. I should ask where did your ancestors come from German bum nigga with Jew Y-DNA and trace Roma ancestry in denial you clown

**~~Cumansky~~** · 12-04-2019, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Peterski

In Global25, Ukrainian average is closer to Poles than to all Russians and Belarusians:

Also other West Slavs are always closer to Ukrainians than to Russians & Belarusians:

Czechs are even closer to Bosnians than they are to East Slavs except for Ukrainians:

When we add all East Slavs together, Ukrainians are just a minority (ethnic Russians are the majority).

When we add all West Slavs together, Poles are the majority (all others combined are less numerous).

Conclusion? Ukrainians are outliers among East Slavs. Maybe because Ukraine was part of the Kingdom of Poland since 1340 (western part) and 1569 (central-eastern part) and Polish lords carried out extensive colonization of much of Ukraine, bringing settlers, including peasants, from further west.

I'm not sure why some assume that Ukrainians "preserved ancient genetics", maybe they don't know the demographic history of Ukraine?

The few Proto-Slavic samples we have so far - such as AV2 from Szolad - aren't very close to Ukrainians.

Poles are typical West Slavs because we are 2/3 of all West Slavs in the world, so we define the category.

Ukrainians do not define what it means to be East Slavic - Russians do, because they are the majority.

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Edit:

Perhaps splitting Global25 Ukrainian into West_Ukrainian and East_Ukrainian would make it more obvious that the former are West Slavs.

Slavic Italian is equal Slav as you

**Slavic Italian** · 12-04-2019, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cumansky

Slavic Italian is equal Slav as you

Woot. Woot.

**Leto** · 03-08-2020, 07:57 PM

Russian with ancestry from many different regions - (South)western Russia, Eastern Ukraine, Belarus (Polish)

K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47.84
2 North_Atlantic 25.9
3 West_Med 10.01
4 West_Asian 7.04
5 East_Med 4.1
6 Siberian 2.66
7 South_Asian 1.29
8 Sub-Saharan 0.91
9 Oceanian 0.23

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 2.93
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 3.52
3 Russian_Smolensk 3.73
4 Estonian_Polish 4.12
5 Ukrainian 5.2
6 Belorussian 5.34
7 Polish 5.57
8 Kargopol_Russian 5.96
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.39
10 South_Polish 7.21

Target: ND
Distance: 2.2727% / 2.27273521 | ADC: 0.5x
36.8 Southwest_Russian
19.2 Russian_Smolensk
17.8 Kargopol_Russian
16.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
10.2 Ukrainian

Target: ND
Distance: 1.8119% / 1.81185720 | ADC: 0.25x
33.8 Ukrainian
23.2 Erzya
22.4 Russian_Smolensk
16.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
4.4 Lithuanian

K15
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.74
2 North_Sea 21.39
3 Eastern_Euro 19.73
4 Atlantic 14.06
5 West_Asian 5.64
6 West_Med 4.88
7 Siberian 1.46
8 Sub-Saharan 0.76
9 South_Asian 0.69
10 East_Med 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.54
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.67
3 Ukrainian 5.06
4 Russian_Smolensk 5.22
5 South_Polish 5.36
6 Belorussian 5.36
7 Polish 5.53
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.58
9 Estonian_Polish 5.92
10 Lithuanian 6.95

Target: ND
Distance: 2.8975% / 2.89753285 | ADC: 0.5x
37.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.2 Ukrainian
18.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.6 Lithuanian
8.6 Estonian

Target: ND
Distance: 2.3828% / 2.38278611 | ADC: 0.25x
37.8 Ukrainian
31.8 Lithuanian
14.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
12.0 Estonian
3.0 North_Ossetian
0.4 Tatar
0.2 Ukrainian_Lviv

EUtest
# Population Percent
1 South_Baltic 31.72
2 East_Euro 23.93
3 North-Central_Euro 17
4 Atlantic 11.16
5 West_Med 5.78
6 East_Med 4.5
7 West_Asian 4.14
8 South_Asian 0.96
9 Siberian 0.55
10 West_African 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian-Russian 2.88
2 UA 3.43
3 Belorussian 3.57
4 West_Russian 4.36
5 Northwest_Russian 5.08
6 PL 5.24
7 LIT 7.9
8 EE 8.08
9 East_Russian 10.68
10 North_Russian 11.35

Target: ND
Distance: 2.3516% / 2.35155860 | ADC: 1x
66.6 Ukrainian-Russian
26.2 Belorussian
7.2 UA

Target: ND
Distance: 2.1271% / 2.12706221 | ADC: 0.5x
58.8 Ukrainian-Russian
19.2 Belorussian
15.6 UA
6.4 LIT

Target: ND
Distance: 1.7149% / 1.71488019 | ADC: 0.25x
61.8 Ukrainian-Russian
23.0 LIT
14.0 UA
0.6 Brahui
0.6 Druze

# Population Percent
1 North_European 57.92
2 Atlantic_Med 20.7
3 Caucasus 12.59
4 Gedrosia 3.34
5 Siberian 1.94
6 Southwest_Asian 1.53
7 South_Asian 1.41
8 East_Asian 0.33
9 Southeast_Asian 0.12

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 57.96
2 Mediterranean 18.62
3 Caucasian 11.09
4 Baloch 7.22
5 Siberian 2.44
6 S-Indian 1.24
7 SW-Asian 0.9
8 SE-Asian 0.31
9 Papuan 0.15

1 ukranian (yunusbayev) 2.46

I know what she looks like by the way.

**Slavic Italian** · 03-09-2020, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Russian with ancestry from many different regions - (South)western Russia, Eastern Ukraine, Belarus (Polish)

K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47.84
2 North_Atlantic 25.9
3 West_Med 10.01
4 West_Asian 7.04
5 East_Med 4.1
6 Siberian 2.66
7 South_Asian 1.29
8 Sub-Saharan 0.91
9 Oceanian 0.23

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 2.93
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 3.52
3 Russian_Smolensk 3.73
4 Estonian_Polish 4.12
5 Ukrainian 5.2
6 Belorussian 5.34
7 Polish 5.57
8 Kargopol_Russian 5.96
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.39
10 South_Polish 7.21

Target: ND
Distance: 2.2727% / 2.27273521 | ADC: 0.5x
36.8 Southwest_Russian
19.2 Russian_Smolensk
17.8 Kargopol_Russian
16.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
10.2 Ukrainian

Target: ND
Distance: 1.8119% / 1.81185720 | ADC: 0.25x
33.8 Ukrainian
23.2 Erzya
22.4 Russian_Smolensk
16.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
4.4 Lithuanian

K15
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 30.74
2 North_Sea 21.39
3 Eastern_Euro 19.73
4 Atlantic 14.06
5 West_Asian 5.64
6 West_Med 4.88
7 Siberian 1.46
8 Sub-Saharan 0.76
9 South_Asian 0.69
10 East_Med 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.54
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.67
3 Ukrainian 5.06
4 Russian_Smolensk 5.22
5 South_Polish 5.36
6 Belorussian 5.36
7 Polish 5.53
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.58
9 Estonian_Polish 5.92
10 Lithuanian 6.95

Target: ND
Distance: 2.8975% / 2.89753285 | ADC: 0.5x
37.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.2 Ukrainian
18.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.6 Lithuanian
8.6 Estonian

Target: ND
Distance: 2.3828% / 2.38278611 | ADC: 0.25x
37.8 Ukrainian
31.8 Lithuanian
14.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
12.0 Estonian
3.0 North_Ossetian
0.4 Tatar
0.2 Ukrainian_Lviv

EUtest
# Population Percent
1 South_Baltic 31.72
2 East_Euro 23.93
3 North-Central_Euro 17
4 Atlantic 11.16
5 West_Med 5.78
6 East_Med 4.5
7 West_Asian 4.14
8 South_Asian 0.96
9 Siberian 0.55
10 West_African 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian-Russian 2.88
2 UA 3.43
3 Belorussian 3.57
4 West_Russian 4.36
5 Northwest_Russian 5.08
6 PL 5.24
7 LIT 7.9
8 EE 8.08
9 East_Russian 10.68
10 North_Russian 11.35

Target: ND
Distance: 2.3516% / 2.35155860 | ADC: 1x
66.6 Ukrainian-Russian
26.2 Belorussian
7.2 UA

Target: ND
Distance: 2.1271% / 2.12706221 | ADC: 0.5x
58.8 Ukrainian-Russian
19.2 Belorussian
15.6 UA
6.4 LIT

Target: ND
Distance: 1.7149% / 1.71488019 | ADC: 0.25x
61.8 Ukrainian-Russian
23.0 LIT
14.0 UA
0.6 Brahui
0.6 Druze

# Population Percent
1 North_European 57.92
2 Atlantic_Med 20.7
3 Caucasus 12.59
4 Gedrosia 3.34
5 Siberian 1.94
6 Southwest_Asian 1.53
7 South_Asian 1.41
8 East_Asian 0.33
9 Southeast_Asian 0.12

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 57.96
2 Mediterranean 18.62
3 Caucasian 11.09
4 Baloch 7.22
5 Siberian 2.44
6 S-Indian 1.24
7 SW-Asian 0.9
8 SE-Asian 0.31
9 Papuan 0.15

1 ukranian (yunusbayev) 2.46

I know what she looks like by the way.

Could you share that kit please?

**vbnetkhio** · 03-11-2020, 05:27 PM

Ukrainian from Kiev

Code:

Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	44.66
2	North_Atlantic	31.19
3	West_Med	10.1
4	West_Asian	4.86
5	Siberian	2.73
6	South_Asian	2.65
7	East_Med	1.76
8	Amerindian	1.28
9	Northeast_African	0.53
10	East_Asian	0.19
11	Oceanian	0.03
12	Sub-Saharan	0.02

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Polish	3.8
2	Ukrainian	5.49
3	South_Polish	5.55
4	Russian_Smolensk	5.7
5	Estonian_Polish	5.97
6	Ukrainian_Lviv	6.39
7	Belorussian	6.45
8	Estonian	6.92
9	Southwest_Russian	7.06
10	Ukrainian_Belgorod	7.74
11	Kargopol_Russian	7.93
12	Southwest_Finnish	8.03
13	Finnish	8.16
14	Lithuanian	9.22
15	East_Finnish	9.68
16	Erzya	11.93
17	Croatian	12.09
18	East_German	13.92
19	North_Swedish	14.21
20	Hungarian	14.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	64.9%	Estonian	+	35.1%	Croatian	@	2.65
2	 	70.1%	Estonian	+	29.9%	Moldavian	@	2.68
3	 	52.4%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	47.6%	Estonian	@	2.82
4	 	61.6%	Ukrainian	+	38.4%	Southwest_Finnish	@	2.86
5	 	57%	South_Polish	+	43%	Estonian	@	2.89
6	 	75.3%	Polish	+	24.7%	Southwest_Finnish	@	2.9
7	 	75.9%	Polish	+	24.1%	Finnish	@	2.94
8	 	97.3%	Polish	+	2.7%	Dolgan	@	2.94
9	 	96.5%	Polish	+	3.5%	Ket	@	2.94
10	 	79.3%	Polish	+	20.7%	East_Finnish	@	2.94
11	 	97.5%	Polish	+	2.5%	Evens	@	2.96
12	 	62.2%	Ukrainian	+	37.8%	Finnish	@	2.96
13	 	97.5%	Polish	+	2.5%	Evenki	@	2.97
14	 	96.6%	Polish	+	3.4%	Selkup	@	2.97
15	 	97.2%	Polish	+	2.8%	Koryak	@	2.98
16	 	97.4%	Polish	+	2.6%	Yakut	@	3
17	 	97.2%	Polish	+	2.8%	Chukchi	@	3.02
18	 	57.6%	Ukrainian	+	42.4%	Estonian	@	3.04
19	 	80%	Estonian	+	20%	Romanian	@	3.06
20	 	96.1%	Polish	+	3.9%	Shors	@	3.06