White Serb/Sorb gedmatch result!

**vbnetkhio** · 11-27-2019, 10:33 PM

Sorbs were an early Slavic tribe from Eastern Germany, very likely equal to the White Serbs, the ancestors of modern day Balkan Serbs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbs_(tribe)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Serbia

the initial core of the Sorbs was on the Thuringia/Saxony/Bohemia border area. they are marked as Sorbowie Wlasciwi (Proper Sorbs) on this map. later they spread and assimilated other tribes.

here are the results of my distant match, a German with all ancestry from the Proper Sorb area dating back to the 1600s. all his ancestors are from the surroundings of Jena:

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Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	Baltic	37.38
2	North_Atlantic	33.73
3	West_Med	8.85
4	West_Asian	8.81
5	East_Med	8.33
6	Oceanian	1.17
7	Red_Sea	0.92
8	Siberian	0.51
9	South_Asian	0.17
10	Amerindian	0.11
11	Northeast_African	0.01

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	South_Polish	6.15
2	Hungarian	6.79
3	Croatian	7.98
4	Ukrainian_Lviv	8.15
5	East_German	8.32
6	Ukrainian	8.96
7	Austrian	9.2
8	Polish	9.41
9	Moldavian	10.69
10	Southwest_Russian	11.54
11	Ukrainian_Belgorod	11.59
12	Southwest_Finnish	11.99
13	Russian_Smolensk	12.01
14	Belorussian	12.56
15	North_Swedish	12.61
16	Estonian_Polish	12.88
17	Serbian	13.96
18	Finnish	14.66
19	Estonian	15.08
20	North_German	15.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	59.2%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	40.8%	West_German	@	2.83
2	 	59.5%	Southwest_Russian	+	40.5%	West_German	@	3.28
3	 	61.2%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	38.8%	South_Dutch	@	3.31
4	 	56.5%	Austrian	+	43.5%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	@	3.5
5	 	64.6%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	35.4%	Southeast_English	@	3.73
6	 	56.5%	Austrian	+	43.5%	Southwest_Russian	@	3.74
7	 	57.5%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	42.5%	North_German	@	3.76
8	 	61.5%	Southwest_Russian	+	38.5%	South_Dutch	@	3.76
9	 	57.6%	Southwest_Russian	+	42.4%	North_German	@	3.83
10	 	77.3%	South_Polish	+	22.7%	West_German	@	3.92
11	 	68.3%	Hungarian	+	31.7%	Belorussian	@	3.95
12	 	74.9%	Hungarian	+	25.1%	Lithuanian	@	3.95
13	 	72.5%	Hungarian	+	27.5%	Estonian	@	3.95
14	 	75.9%	South_Polish	+	24.1%	North_German	@	3.97
15	 	66.5%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	33.5%	French	@	4.02
16	 	54.1%	South_Polish	+	45.9%	Hungarian	@	4.04
17	 	67.5%	Hungarian	+	32.5%	Russian_Smolensk	@	4.07
18	 	58.7%	Russian_Smolensk	+	41.3%	West_German	@	4.09
19	 	72.2%	Hungarian	+	27.8%	Finnish	@	4.1
20	 	64.3%	South_Polish	+	35.7%	Austrian	@	4.12

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Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1	North_Sea	25.95
2	Baltic	21.11
3	Atlantic	19.61
4	Eastern_Euro	15.63
5	West_Asian	7.24
6	West_Med	5.2
7	East_Med	3.77
8	Oceanian	0.87
9	Red_Sea	0.63

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1	Hungarian	6.34
2	East_German	6.48
3	South_Polish	7.58
4	Austrian	7.89
5	Southwest_Finnish	8.47
6	Croatian	8.56
7	Ukrainian_Lviv	8.71
8	Polish	9.1
9	Ukrainian	9.14
10	Finnish	9.84
11	Moldavian	10.4
12	Russian_Smolensk	11.58
13	North_Swedish	12.12
14	Estonian	12.18
15	Ukrainian_Belgorod	12.41
16	Southwest_Russian	12.42
17	North_German	12.53
18	Serbian	12.83
19	East_Finnish	12.92
20	Belorussian	13.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source)	Secondary Population (source)	Distance
1	 	50.3%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	49.7%	North_German	@	2.57
2	 	56%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	44%	North_Dutch	@	2.85
3	 	54.5%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	45.5%	West_German	@	2.87
4	 	61.6%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	38.4%	Orcadian	@	2.92
5	 	58.7%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	41.3%	Southeast_English	@	2.96
6	 	50.2%	Southwest_Russian	+	49.8%	North_German	@	3.05
7	 	63.7%	South_Polish	+	36.3%	North_German	@	3.09
8	 	55.5%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	44.5%	Danish	@	3.09
9	 	54.5%	Southwest_Russian	+	45.5%	West_German	@	3.1
10	 	59.1%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	40.9%	Southwest_English	@	3.17
11	 	59.6%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	40.4%	West_Scottish	@	3.28
12	 	58.9%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	41.1%	Irish	@	3.28
13	 	60%	Ukrainian_Lviv	+	40%	North_German	@	3.33
14	 	56.5%	Russian_Smolensk	+	43.5%	West_German	@	3.35
15	 	68.8%	South_Polish	+	31.2%	Danish	@	3.41
16	 	69.4%	South_Polish	+	30.6%	North_Dutch	@	3.51
17	 	74.1%	South_Polish	+	25.9%	Orcadian	@	3.51
18	 	56.1%	Southwest_Russian	+	43.9%	North_Dutch	@	3.51
19	 	58.8%	Ukrainian	+	41.2%	North_German	@	3.52
20	 	54%	Ukrainian_Belgorod	+	46%	South_Dutch	@	3.56

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Population	 
Amerindian	-    
Arabian	0.28 Pct
Armenian	0.20 Pct
Basque	-    
Central_African	-    
Central_Euro	6.64 Pct
East_African	-    
East_Asian	-    
East_Balkan	8.32 Pct
East_Central_Asian	-    
East_Central_Euro	16.73 Pct
East_Med	-    
Eastern_Euro	12.20 Pct
Fennoscandian	8.70 Pct
French	4.49 Pct
Iberian	2.63 Pct
Indo-Chinese	-    
Italian	9.14 Pct
Malayan	-    
Near_Eastern	-    
North_African	-    
North_Atlantic	13.06 Pct
North_Caucasian	-    
North_Sea	13.31 Pct
Northeast_African	-    
Oceanian	-    
Omotic	-    
Pygmy	-    
Siberian	-    
South_Asian	-    
South_Central_Asian	0.06 Pct
South_Chinese	-    
Volga-Ural	0.80 Pct
West_African	-    
West_Caucasian	3.43 Pct
West_Med	-

**vbnetkhio** · 11-27-2019, 10:37 PM

his Taux de similitude

**Adamg** · 11-27-2019, 10:39 PM

boring

**vbnetkhio** · 11-27-2019, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by Adamg

boring

Sorbs are a part of the history of your homeland, Czech and German guy

**CommonSense** · 11-27-2019, 10:47 PM

Not a pure Sorb. From the referrences I've seen, they almost entirely lack German admix.

**vbnetkhio** · 11-27-2019, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by CommonSense

Not a pure Sorb. From the referrences I've seen, they almost entirely lack German admix.

of course, this one is roughly half early Slavic, half Germanic.
that sample which you are talking about is from some very isolated village, he is ~80% identical to early medieval Slavs. that's very rare.