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    Default Subrace, ethnicity, pigmentation. Do you agree with me?

    In my opinion, individuals of the same subrace might have different levels of pigmentation. For example, Greeks who are classified as Dinaro-Med would most probably be darker than Italians classified as Dinaro-Med. Or, Syrians classified as Orientalid would most probably be lighter pigmented than Persians classified as Orientalid. In my opinion, this is because of both climatic conditions and also different kind of admixtures of certain ethnicities. Do you agree with me?
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    Yes I definitely agree with you. Many skin types with locals as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21993 View Post
    In my opinion, individuals of the same subrace might have different levels of pigmentation. For example, Greeks who are classified as Dinaro-Med would most probably be darker than Italians classified as Dinaro-Med. Or, Syrians classified as Orientalid would most probably be lighter pigmented than Persians classified as Orientalid. In my opinion, this is because of both climatic conditions and also different kind of admixtures of certain ethnicities. Do you agree with me?
    Greeks are not darker than Italians, who told you that? Syrians as a whole are not darker than the Iranians and not all Syrians or Iranians are Orientalid, others are Armenid.

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    Subraces aren't real. There, I made your life easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Greeks are not darker than Italians, who told you that? Syrians as a whole are not darker than the Iranians and not all Syrians or Iranians are Orientalid, others are Armenid.
    Dude, Greeks are overall darker than Italians. I have met with a lot of Italians and Greeks.
    Syrians are lighter than Persians. Not Iranians. A lot of Iranians are ethnically either Azeris or Kurds, who are lighter than Syrians overall.

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    Italians, Greeks and Turks have almost same pigmention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    Italians, Greeks and Turks have almost same pigmention.
    For Southern half yes but Northern half of Italy is lighter than us in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21993 View Post
    In my opinion, individuals of the same subrace might have different levels of pigmentation. For example, Greeks who are classified as Dinaro-Med would most probably be darker than Italians classified as Dinaro-Med. Or, Syrians classified as Orientalid would most probably be lighter pigmented than Persians classified as Orientalid.
    Phenotypes are subraces?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21993 View Post
    For Southern half yes but Northern half of Italy is lighter than us in my opinion.
    Of course Northern Italy is SW Europe and genetically speaking close to French, W.German, Swiss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Greeks are not darker than Italians, who told you that? Syrians as a whole are not darker than the Iranians and not all Syrians or Iranians are Orientalid, others are Armenid.
    If we are taking Italy as a whole, there is no question about it. If by southern Italy then I agree with you.

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