Wat is Omvolking?

[The Lawspeaker]

The problem might be the fact that those people might be claiming they wouldn't adapt themselves to where they would be deported to.

That's their problem. They mostly never adapted to our country and they still have the passport of the other country (making their Dutch passport acquired under false pretences).

[21993]

That's their problem. They mostly never adapted to our country and they still have the passport of the other country (making their Dutch passport acquired under false pretences).

Yes, if they never adapted then it means Dutch culture is not a part of their lives. I think, citizenship examinations should also include the factor of being adapted to the culture of the host country. I guess, Eastern, Southern and Central European countries achieve it better than their Northern and Western counterparts.

[The Lawspeaker]

Yes, if they never adapted then it means Dutch culture is not a part of their lives. I think, citizenship examinations should also include the factor of being adapted to the culture of the host country. I guess, Eastern, Southern and Central European countries achieve it better than their Northern and Western counterparts.

What they did was lying through their teeth. They learned the exams to get the passport and threw all the lessons out of the window. They used the passport to vote for the party that had let them in and who gave them free money for life.

[Ziegfried]

The best thing would be for us to close our borders and, frankly, deport those who are already here. If you aren't married to a native-born (ethnic) Dutch citizen, you really shouldn't be here.

Those native Dutch people should be sent their partner's home country too. No citizenship for traitors, miscegenators.

[The Lawspeaker]

Those native Dutch people should be sent their partner's home country too. No citizenship for traitors, miscegenators.

There I disagree with you. I believe in the sanctity of the family and in the tradition that a spouse gets the citizenship (or joins the family) of the man she marries. That tradition is as old as Western society. I, for one, would repeal the 1984 Rijkswet op het Nederlanderschap in favour of the 1892 Wet op het Nederlanderschap en Ingezetenschap where citizenship is only conferred through the male line.

Your stance is a revolutionary and a modernist one and runs counter to Dutch legal and social tradition. I prefer tradition.

[Ziegfried]

There I disagree with you. I believe in the sanctity of the family and in the tradition that a spouse gets the citizenship (or joins the family) of the man she marries. That tradition is as old as Western society. I, for one, would repeal the 1984 Rijkswet op het Nederlanderschap in favour of the 1892 Wet op het Nederlanderschap en Ingezetenschap where citizenship is only conferred through the male line.

Your stance is a revolutionary and a modernist one and runs counter to Dutch legal and social tradition. I prefer tradition.

No, USA had ethnostate laws, Third Reich had ethnostate laws, many other countries had/have it. Miscegenation may lead elimination of our cultures gradually. You know probably that phenomenon non-white guys trying to marry European women to get citizenship. Only ethnostates can save Europe.

[21993]

Those native Dutch people should be sent their partner's home country too. No citizenship for traitors, miscegenators.

Omvolking is being shamed in a restaurant in the middle of Berlin just for drinking rakı in Ramadan. Yes, it happened to one of my relatives.

[The Lawspeaker]

No, USA had ethnostate laws, Third Reich had ethnostate laws, many other countries had/have it. Miscegenation may lead elimination of our cultures gradually. You know probably that phenomenon non-white guys trying to marry European women to get citizenship. Only ethnostates can save Europe.

Foreigners do what foreigners do. I don't care what they do. I believe in maintaining tradition and I reject your modernism. You don't seem to have read what I said about the acquisition of citizenship the traditional way btw.

[Blondie]

No, USA had ethnostate laws, Third Reich had ethnostate laws, many other countries had/have it. Miscegenation may lead elimination of our cultures gradually. You know probably that phenomenon non-white guys trying to marry European women to get citizenship. Only ethnostates can save Europe.

Rather the self-defence, closed borders and separated continent from other cultures. If someone can't speak the local langauge, don't respect the local culture/laws (for example who want muslim life style), who are not working etc they have no place in Europe, but if someone adopted our culture and everything entirely and decent member of the society i have no problem with it if their population is controlled for example 5% limit or something.

[Ziegfried]

Rather the self-defence, closed borders and separated continent from other cultures. If someone can't speak the local langauge, don't respect the local culture/laws (for example who want muslim life style), who are not working etc they have no place in Europe, but if someone adopted our culture and everything entirely and decent member of the society i have no problem with it if their population is controlled for example 5% limit or something.

Everything began by softcore conservative narrative already. Conservativism can't survive. Those Americans and Brits killing our people were led by conservatives. Trying to look sane and non-marginal won't save Europe. It will cause a gradual decline. Even if we close the borders today, they will defeat us by demographic replacement warfare. Today's Europe is like a big wealthier Weimar and it needs Weimar solutions.