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    Greek results are low because we don't care about these examinations. We have much harder subjects to deal with at school. And because we have an immigrant community of 1 million with an average IQ of 82.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Once again, China (the provinces of Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, and Zhejiang) and Singapore came out on top, ranking first and second, respectively, in all three subjects.
    "Once again"? China didn't rank nearly as high in 2015 (in the previous round of PISA): 6th in math (531), 10th in science (518), and 27th in reading (494). Smells super fishy. In 2015, the Chinese provinces that participated in PISA were Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, and Guangdong (i.e. the same as in 2018 but Guangdong instead of Zhejiang).

    Anyway, here's the average score of each country or region (in math, and science, and reading) converted to IQ points (using the formula 100+((x-500)/100)*15):

    (average score;math;science;reading;difference from average score in 2015;country or region)
    111.8;113.7;113.5;108.2;9.6;China
    108.5;110.3;107.7;107.3;0.7;Singapore
    106.4;108.7;106.6;103.8;2.3;Macau
    104.6;107.7;102.5;103.6;-0.3;Hong Kong, China
    103.8;103.5;104.5;103.5;0.2;Estonia
    103.0;104.0;104.3;100.6;-1.3;Japan
    102.9;103.9;102.8;102.1;0.1;Korea
    102.5;104.7;102.4;100.5;-1.0;Chinese Taipei
    102.5;101.8;102.7;103.0;-1.0;Canada
    102.5;101.0;103.3;103.0;-1.0;Finland
    102.0;102.4;101.7;101.8;1.4;Poland
    100.7;100.0;99.4;102.7;-0.7;Ireland
    100.5;101.3;101.0;99.2;-0.9;Slovenia
    100.5;100.3;100.8;100.6;0.6;United Kingdom
    100.4;99.1;101.2;100.9;-0.4;New Zealand
    100.3;102.8;100.5;97.8;-0.9;Netherlands
    100.3;100.3;99.8;100.9;1.0;Sweden
    100.2;101.3;99.0;100.2;-0.5;Denmark
    100.0;101.2;99.8;99.0;-0.4;Belgium
    100.0;100.0;100.5;99.7;-1.2;Germany
    99.8;98.7;100.5;100.5;-0.5;Australia
    99.7;102.2;99.2;97.6;-1.2;Switzerland
    99.5;100.2;98.5;99.8;-1.2;Norway
    99.3;99.8;99.5;98.5;0.7;Czech Republic
    99.2;96.7;100.3;100.8;1.1;United States
    99.0;99.2;99.0;99.0;-0.3;France
    98.8;98.8;98.8;98.8;-0.8;Portugal
    98.7;99.8;98.5;97.6;-0.2;Austria
    98.1;99.4;98.0;96.8;0.1;Latvia
    97.3;97.2;97.5;N/A;-1.5;Spain
    97.2;99.2;96.2;96.1;0.0;Iceland
    97.2;98.2;96.7;96.8;-1.5;Russia
    97.0;97.2;97.3;96.4;0.7;Lithuania
    96.9;97.2;97.2;96.4;0.7;Hungary
    96.5;98.0;95.2;96.4;-1.2;Italy
    96.5;97.5;96.5;95.5;-1.0;Luxembourg
    95.8;95.8;95.7;96.1;N/A;Belarus
    95.8;94.6;95.8;96.8;-0.5;Croatia
    95.4;97.9;94.6;93.7;0.9;Slovakia
    94.8;94.5;94.3;95.5;-1.0;Israel
    94.4;93.1;95.2;94.9;5.8;Turkey
    94.4;93.0;95.3;94.9;N/A;Ukraine
    93.8;95.8;93.5;92.2;-0.7;Malta
    93.0;92.7;92.8;93.5;-0.8;Greece
    91.3;92.2;91.0;90.8;N/A;Serbia
    90.7;92.7;90.8;88.6;0.0;Cyprus
    90.7;87.5;91.6;92.8;-0.8;Chile
    90.1;90.2;90.1;89.8;0.2;United Arab Emirates
    89.7;91.0;90.7;87.2;-1.3;Malaysia
    89.2;89.5;88.9;89.2;-1.5;Romania
    89.0;90.4;88.6;88.0;-2.0;Bulgaria
    88.7;88.2;89.2;88.6;0.5;Moldova
    88.5;89.5;89.7;86.2;N/A;Brunei
    88.5;87.7;88.9;89.0;-1.0;Uruguay
    88.3;89.5;87.2;88.2;0.5;Montenegro
    88.0;90.5;87.5;85.8;0.7;Albania
    87.4;86.3;87.8;88.0;0.7;Mexico
    87.4;85.0;89.3;87.8;2.6;Jordan
    87.2;85.3;87.4;88.9;-0.1;Costa Rica
    87.0;87.1;87.8;86.0;0.9;Qatar
    86.9;87.8;88.9;84.0;-0.3;Thailand
    85.8;83.7;87.0;86.8;-0.8;Colombia
    85.3;88.5;84.5;83.0;-6.8;Kazakhstan
    85.3;88.0;84.7;83.3;N/A;Azerbaijan
    85.3;85.9;84.7;85.5;N/A;Bosnia and Herzegovina
    85.2;85.0;85.6;85.2;1.2;Peru
    85.0;84.1;87.0;84.0;N/A;North Macedonia
    85.0;82.6;85.6;87.0;0.8;Brazil
    84.2;81.8;85.6;85.3;-4.0;Argentina
    83.0;84.7;82.5;82.0;-2.8;Georgia
    82.9;81.0;82.9;84.8;N/A;Saudi Arabia
    82.3;81.8;84.4;80.7;-2.0;Indonesia
    81.5;84.0;82.6;78.0;0.0;Lebanon
    80.2;80.2;81.5;78.8;N/A;Morocco
    79.8;78.0;79.8;81.5;N/A;Panama
    79.2;79.9;79.8;78.0;-0.2;Kosovo
    77.5;78.0;78.5;76.0;N/A;Philippines
    75.1;73.8;75.4;76.3;-0.8;Dominican Republic

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Personally I don't understand why Romania participates, since the curricula is not tailored at all to PISA tests, and there is no desire to do so in the future.
    Well, we guys in the UAE are on par with your country and others like Cyprus and Uruguay, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    It's on the bottom half of EU rankings, especially in mathematics. Slovenia is doing much better.
    Everything you just said is normal, and logical. If was anything different you should be worried, because it wouldn't project the actual (accumulated) state of your country. It would be an exceptional generation which would make you falsely believe you're doing better than its actually is.

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    I do not trust Chinese scores in the slightest. The Chinese have a long, venerable history of cheating on tests. I am sad Spain isn't on the list. Apparently, there were some irregularities.

    [QUOTE]The OECD has decided to defer the publication of the PISA 2018 reading results, both national and sub-regional, for Spain. Spain’s data met PISA 2018 Technical Standards. However, some data show implausible student-response behaviour. Consequently, at the time of publication of this report, comparability of Spain’s results in reading cannot be assured (see Annex A9). PISA 2018 reading results for Spain are therefore not published in this report. Results in the mathematics and science domains appear less affected by this anomalous response behaviour. Further review will confirm this.[/QUOTE

    I think Portugal did pretty well. I am sad about all the Latin Am. scores.

    Congrats Ireland!

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    Swedish results are a scam too. 11,1% of the student population was excluded, 300% higher than OECD's average.

    Here's a video about the Swedish results:

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    [QUOTE=ChildofMud;6375425]I do not trust Chinese scores in the slightest. The Chinese have a long, venerable history of cheating on tests. I am sad Spain isn't on the list. Apparently, there were some irregularities.

    The OECD has decided to defer the publication of the PISA 2018 reading results, both national and sub-regional, for Spain. Spain’s data met PISA 2018 Technical Standards. However, some data show implausible student-response behaviour. Consequently, at the time of publication of this report, comparability of Spain’s results in reading cannot be assured (see Annex A9). PISA 2018 reading results for Spain are therefore not published in this report. Results in the mathematics and science domains appear less affected by this anomalous response behaviour. Further review will confirm this.[/QUOTE

    I think Portugal did pretty well. I am sad about all the Latin Am. scores.

    Congrats Ireland!
    They detected that many students answered all the tests with only A, or only B all the questions in several distant places at the same time, so they invalidate the results. Quite strange.

    Anyway in Spain education is a total disaster, every new governement changes the law continually, and every region has their own education program , in many regions you estudy in two languages (Spanish and regional language) , teatchers have lost the authority and the arrival of foreigners (50% of the primery students of my village for example are form ou Spain) make impossible teach all of them at the same rhithm.

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    [QUOTE=ChildofMud;6375425]I do not trust Chinese scores in the slightest. The Chinese have a long, venerable history of cheating on tests. I am sad Spain isn't on the list. Apparently, there were some irregularities.

    The OECD has decided to defer the publication of the PISA 2018 reading results, both national and sub-regional, for Spain. Spain’s data met PISA 2018 Technical Standards. However, some data show implausible student-response behaviour. Consequently, at the time of publication of this report, comparability of Spain’s results in reading cannot be assured (see Annex A9). PISA 2018 reading results for Spain are therefore not published in this report. Results in the mathematics and science domains appear less affected by this anomalous response behaviour. Further review will confirm this.[/QUOTE

    I think Portugal did pretty well. I am sad about all the Latin Am. scores.

    Congrats Ireland!
    They detected that many students answered all the tests with only A, or only B all the questions in several distant places at the same time, so they invalidate the results. Quite strange.

    Anyway in Spain education is a total disaster, every new governement changes the law continually, and every region has their own education program , in many regions you estudy in two languages (Spanish and regional language) , teatchers have lost the authority and the arrival of foreigners (50% of the primery students of my village for example are form out Spain) make impossible teach all of them at the same rhythm.
    Last edited by gixajo; 02-23-2020 at 04:10 PM.

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    Germany gotta be fake

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