Which form of public transport do you prefer: trains or buses?

[Teutone]

LOL are you really saying that no middle-class Germans use public transport?

Hipsters green voters in big cities do.

Middle class Germans with a job and dignity, dont.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Between me and my girlfriend we currently have three cars in our household but to be honest I avoid using them in business days. I willingly go to work every day by train and walk a few kilometers to the office instead of taking a bus (unless it is pouring rain).

Between trains and buses I think I prefer trains, especially from Cascais to Lisbon because we are privileged to have this nice view:




It is great to start the day with a nice view along the coast-line.

[The Lawspeaker]

Hipsters green voters in big cities do.

Middle class Germans with a job and dignity, dont.

LOL. Here using the train is still done by everybody: businesspeople who don't want to be stuck in traffic, government ministers (yes !), members of parliament, professors, students, office workers, the poor, unemployed - it's still something done across the board. In fact: a minister of government should feel ashamed of himself if he arrives to Parliament in a chauffeur-driven car in front of the camera: people are actually offended by those ministers. This is how they are expected to arrive:

[21993]

Trains because of traffic jam issues.

[Tooting Carmen]

Trains because of traffic jam issues.

I liked the Orient Express Museum in Istanbul. And not to mention the Funicular to Taksim Square, of course.

[The Lawspeaker]

But, yes, I understand why Teutone thinks that only the poor use public transport (never mind, you pay quite handsomely for a ICE First Class ticket): Germany's infrastructure is, at present, not much better than America's. They have been neglecting it for the last ... at least 30, 40 years. Good: they did built a few high speed lines but the publicity masked the fact that the rest was/is falling apart (including the national highway system). The internet is slow compared to much of Western Europe - the infrastructure is hopelessly outdated. Some of the security systems on the main rail network date back to the 19th century. That's how insane it is.

[Tooting Carmen]

But, yes, I understand why Teutone thinks that only the poor use public transport (never mind, you pay quite handsomely for a ICE First Class ticket): Germany's infrastructure is, at present, not much better than America's. They have neglecting it for the last ... at least 30, 40 years. Good: they did build a few high speed lines but the publicity masked the fact that the rest was/is falling apart (including the national highway system).

Similarly in France: juxtaposed with all the fuss about the TGV network, local and traditional railway lines have long been neglected and those trains can be pretty cramped and shoddy.

[Teutone]

But, yes, I understand why Teutone thinks that only the poor use public transport (never mind, you pay quite handsomely for a ICE First Class ticket): Germany's infrastructure is, at present, not much better than America's. They have neglecting it for the last ... at least 30, 40 years. Good: they did build a few high speed lines but the publicity masked the fact that the rest was/is falling apart (including the national highway system).

Why would I wait for a train or bus instead of drive right to the point where I wanna be with my car, where and when I want. Not sharing it with anyone?

Ever been to big german city train stations just a bunch of junkies and nafris

[MiloshN]

In Serbia trains are so slow (under 100km/h), and if you want to enjoy in nature, train is perfect solution, but if I want to do something fast, my pick is bus...

Послато са Nokia 2 помоћу Тапатока

[Tooting Carmen]

Ever been to big german city train stations just a bunch of junkies and nafris

You're exaggerating, surely? Anyway, I increasingly think you are more of an American-style right-winger than a regular European one: you combine a deep social conservatism with an economic libertarianism and a strong disdain towards public welfare and public transport. In contrast, most European right-wingers (though admittedly less so in the UK than most of Mainland Europe) still place a certain level of consideration and respect for collective provision and services.