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Thread: Armenians or Kalmyks. Who do you like the most?

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    like anybody meets with a Kalmyk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laag View Post
    The Nenets living in a cold climate look quite different from the Kalmyks. They are fair skinned and light-haired.

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    That because they absorbed EHG releated ancestry via finno urgic admixture. True Mongoloids can only have pale light skin but never light hair or eyes without admixture. Light eyes/hair is an European Hunter gatherer trait that spread outside of Europe proper in the Mesolithic/Neolithic and Bronze ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    That because they absorbed EHG releated ancestry via finno urgic admixture. True Mongoloids can only have pale light skin but never light hair or eyes without admixture. Light eyes/hair is an European Hunter gatherer trait that spread outside of Europe proper in the Mesolithic/Neolithic and Bronze ages.
    Aksyanova found among Tundra Nenets males 35,7% light eyes (7-12 on Bunak scale) and among females 17,7%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laag View Post
    Aksyanova found among Tundra Nenets males 35,7% light eyes (7-12 on Bunak scale) and among females 17,7%.
    Which come from their European related ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Kalmyks are ethnic Oirats and thus a Mongolic subgroup. The name Kalmyk is a Turkic/Kazakh exonym. Based on the comments of the video about their language, Khalkha Mongols could fully understand their language, so it's basically Mongolian with maybe minor Turkic and possibly Russian influence rather than being intermediate.
    I was talking about sounding of languages. Kalmyk language sounds Turkic in comparison to Mongolian proper. Kalmyks adopted Turkic sounds which are absent in Mongolian and they don't have some important Mongolian sounds.

    Kalmyk sounds like intermediate between Mongolian and Turkic.

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    I downloaded photos which were classified as being of Kalmyks and Armenians from the website of Kunstkamera, which is the Russian equivalent of the Smithsonian Institution. I excluded photos which classified as being of two or more ethnicities. I then used OpenCV and ImageMagick to crop out faces from the photos, and I selected the cropped images which matched the following criteria: 1) the image actually contained a face; 2) I estimated the person in the image to be Kalmyk or Armenian; 3) I estimated the person in the image to be between approximately 15 and 50 years old; 4) the image was not very low-quality; 5) the person in the image was facing the camera fairly directly; 6) the person in the image was not included in another image which I had selected; and 7) the image was recognized by the Python package I use to create morphs.

    Here's morphs of the images I selected. The Armenian female morph ended up looking completely dead-eyed and degenerated. The Armenian male morph didn't end up looking so bad, but I suspect that's because it only consists of 4 images.


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    First time in my life that I heard about Kalmyks, wtf are these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    First time in my life that I heard about Kalmyks, wtf are these?
    Same here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Same here.
    So irrelevant people. These Uralid-Caucasus ethnicities Nenets, Maris, Chuvas, Kalmyks... not sure what for they exist, nobody knows about them, zero contributions to the world, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    I don't know what a kalmyk even is.
    Mongolians living in south western Russia on the west shore of the Caspian and a little in land

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