Page 9 of 9 FirstFirst ... 56789
Results 81 to 89 of 89

Thread: Were the Byzantines Actually Romans?

  1. #81
    Veteran Member Tutankhamun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2020
    Last Online
    03-10-2024 @ 10:38 PM
    Ethnicity
    Brazilian
    Ancestry
    Portuguese (North and Azores) Italian (Veneto) Native and SSA minor
    Country
    Brazil
    Region
    Sao Paulo
    Gender
    Posts
    2,034
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 1,745
    Given: 749

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    Ethnically, culturally and religiously, it was Hellenic.

    But politically, it was Roman.
    Exactly, the Roman empire, for example, had emperors of Syrian and North African origin, but these emperors did not stop being Romans because of their origins.

  2. #82
    Veteran Member zueira's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:36 AM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    brazilian
    Ethnicity
    brazil
    Country
    Brazil
    Religion
    atheism
    Gender
    Posts
    1,050
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 136
    Given: 3

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    Ethnically, culturally and religiously, it was Hellenic.

    But politically, it was Roman.

  3. #83
    Ortho Alpha Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"


    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Last Online
    @
    Meta-Ethnicity
    East Roman Orthodox Christian
    Ethnicity
    Greek
    Ancestry
    Olive Farmers&Fishermen
    Country
    Great Britain
    Taxonomy
    Greek Alpha
    Politics
    Goy resistance movement
    Religion
    Albanian Zen
    Relationship Status
    Part time lover
    Gender
    Posts
    17,600
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 9,062
    Given: 14,242

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    zueira capoeira
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Demons don't scare me.
    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    They should be scared of me.

  4. #84
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Online
    09-04-2023 @ 02:54 PM
    Location
    The Deep Spain
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Spanish paleto culture
    Ethnicity
    Spanish paleto culture
    Ancestry
    Castellanos
    Country
    Spain
    Region
    Castile and Leon
    Y-DNA
    Castellanos
    mtDNA
    Castellanos
    Taxonomy
    Spanish paleto culture
    Politics
    Preserving Spanish paleto culture
    Religion
    The only one true Christianism is the Spanish Inquisition
    Gender
    Posts
    49,212
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 25,689
    Given: 23,946

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    I always considered them Greeks. Just Greeks, not Romans.

  5. #85
    Veteran Member zueira's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2020
    Last Online
    Today @ 12:36 AM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    brazilian
    Ethnicity
    brazil
    Country
    Brazil
    Religion
    atheism
    Gender
    Posts
    1,050
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 136
    Given: 3

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tauromachos View Post
    Most of Romans civilization was based on Ancient Greek, so yeah
    wtf? romans= Latins and Etruscan culture

  6. #86
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2022
    Last Online
    Today @ 11:24 AM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Italic-Illyrian-Hellenic
    Ethnicity
    Italian
    Ancestry
    Italics and Greeks (Greek-Roman roots)
    Country
    Italy
    Region
    Apulia
    Taxonomy
    Dinaro-mediterranid
    Hero
    Leonidas
    Religion
    Jupiter and Zeus
    Relationship Status
    In a relationship
    Age
    23
    Gender
    Posts
    648
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 380
    Given: 79

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Yorgo View Post
    For Levantines and Middle Easterners in general, Roman is synonymous with Greek, since we were part and influenced by the Greek-speaking part of the empire. If you say Roman Empire, we think of Constantinople and Antioch, not Rome.

    Even the two largest Levantine Churches, the Greek Orthodox and the Melkite Greek Catholic Churches of Antioch, they are actually called Roum (Roman) in Aramaic/Arabic and not Younan (ethnic Greek).

    The Muslim Arabs also used to pejoratively refer to us as Roum, even tho our ethnic identity was Syrian (only Christians identified as Syrian, which used to be synonymous for Christian).
    I seem to have some "Caucasian" DNA probably due to Byzantium

  7. #87
    Veteran Member wvwvw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Last Online
    03-02-2024 @ 11:38 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Homo neogrecous
    Ethnicity
    Yes
    Country
    Japan
    Region
    Acadia
    mtDNA
    H
    Politics
    oh look. the curve is flattening.
    Age
    36
    Gender
    Posts
    31,839
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,431
    Given: 241

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by zueira View Post
    wtf? romans= Latins and Etruscan culture
    The Latins came from Troy. Etruria was multiethnic, there were Trojans, Italics like Tuscans, Maonians like the Tyrsenoi, Pelasgians and others. They were never a single tribe, that's why also there is no eponymous founder. There is one for Pelasgians, Trojans, Tuscans, Tyrrhenians and everyone else but not for the non existant 'Etruscans'

  8. #88
    Veteran Member wvwvw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Last Online
    03-02-2024 @ 11:38 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Homo neogrecous
    Ethnicity
    Yes
    Country
    Japan
    Region
    Acadia
    mtDNA
    H
    Politics
    oh look. the curve is flattening.
    Age
    36
    Gender
    Posts
    31,839
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,431
    Given: 241

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Tutankhamun View Post
    Exactly, the Roman empire, for example, had emperors of Syrian and North African origin, but these emperors did not stop being Romans because of their origins.
    Those Emperors had Greek and Roman origin and had either Roman or Greek ancestry, they were the sons of Roman generals and Roman colonists stationed there.

    Asia Minor was populated by Greeks ever since antiquity. Even Syria, Phillistine, Egypt and parts of Northern Africa and places like Marseilles had ethnic Greek populations. They spoke Greek and worshipped the Gods by their Greek names, before even the Romans come into the picture. Only those who were of Greek decent worshiped the Greek Gods by their Greek names since the Greek religion was one of Ancestor Worship and the Gods were their ancestors.

  9. #89
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2021
    Last Online
    12-30-2022 @ 03:32 AM
    Location
    Portland, Oregon
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Hellenic
    Ethnicity
    Chaonian
    Country
    Greece
    Y-DNA
    R1b
    Politics
    A liberal with healthy socialdemocratic tendencies
    Hero
    Hadrian, Basileios the Bulgar-slayer
    Religion
    Agnosticism, Hellenism
    Relationship Status
    in a long-term same-sex relationship
    Age
    28
    Gender
    Posts
    252
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 40
    Given: 25

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Dianatomia View Post
    For me the Byzantines were quite clearly Greeks.

    In fact, all peoples aside from the Greeks which were once part of the Eastern Roman Empire; Armenians, Bulgarians, Serbs, Syriac Christians, Copts etc. All of them at some point seceded from the Eastern Roman empire. They became Arabs Muslims or had their own kings, tzars and kingdoms who sometimes even opposed the Byzantine Empire.

    Yet, the Byzantine Empire survived because it was the Greeks who were keeping the empire in check. They were the engine of the empire throughout the ages. And when they slowly lost control, power and influence, the empire fell.

    The Byzantine Empire without the Greeks is like a Soviet Union without the Russians. It is not possible. That simple.
    Another illiterate neogreco/romios who knows shit.
    The Eastern Romans were not Greeks, but the symbiosis of Greeks+Balkanites under greek influence and greek-speaking Anatolians+Armenians for the most part. In the earlier centuries of its existence, there were also greek-speaking Italiotes and Semites.
    There was always an exchange of power between the two population components, usually the Greeks doing good and the Anatolians harm. The Empire fell primarily because the idiotic Anatolians and Armenians were sick of Greeks keeping the upper hold for centuries without them in any higher position of power. And, of course, our beloved Westerners had ruined the Empire a couple of centuries back.
    As always, so intelligent that the islamic monkeys had reached Central Europe. Had it not been for another gay man saving Europe we would all be circumcised and celebrating Ramadan.
    Brrrr...

Page 9 of 9 FirstFirst ... 56789

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-26-2019, 09:03 AM
  2. How were Byzantines genetically positioned?
    By manu15151513 in forum Genetics
    Replies: 55
    Last Post: 11-05-2018, 04:39 AM
  3. Seljuk Turk vs Byzantines battle of Manzikert
    By StonyArabia in forum War & Military
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-06-2018, 04:39 AM
  4. Replies: 42
    Last Post: 08-03-2018, 12:03 AM
  5. What is your opinion about the Byzantines?
    By StonyArabia in forum History
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: 06-29-2012, 04:07 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •