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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Yes to both.
    Spaniards, for example, were/are the "invisible" immigrants, when people talk about immigration to Brazil, they focuse on Italians, Germans, etc., not the Spanish, which is ironic, they were the third largest Euro group to immigrate to Brazil during the XIX and XX centuries ( they came mainly from Galiza and Andalusia), after Portuguese and Italians, and way ahead of Germans.

    We also have distant Spanish blood in Brazil, they were present here during colonial times, specially during the Iberian Union, and were aborbed into the population, but their legacy can be noted in some surnames, like Camargo, Bueno, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    I think they've got more languages spoken in Brazil than the 22 regional languages spoken in India.

    I think Portuguese is the main language in Brazil as the majority of Brazilians are Lusophones.

    There's 300 languages where I live which are mostly spoken by migrants as we have a lot of diaspora of peoples from around the globe who've chosen to live here. (I live in West London, UK, which is also officially the sixth largest French speaking city in the world due to the 3-400,000 French citizens living here, although Polish is officially the second largest language spoken in my country and is more spoken than Cornish and other regional languages here.)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Brazil
    Languages of Brazil:

    "As of 2019, the population of Brazil speaks or signs approximately 228 languages, of which 217 are indigenous and 11 came with immigrants!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    India is far more linguistically diverse than Brazil. It is not even a comparison. In addition to those 22 regional languages, there are several much smaller local languages, including some without even a written form, such as Kutchi (quite a common language among Leicester Indians).

    The key difference is that India's linguistic diversity is overwhelmingly due to native languages, whereas in Brazil (as with the US, of course), their linguistic diversity is due to a mixture of both native languages and immigrant ones.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Brazil

    "As of 2019, the population of Brazil speaks or signs approximately 228 languages, of which 217 are indigenous and 11 came with immigrants"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Indeed, I'd even go so far as to say that Brazil and Russia are the two contenders for the "worst country at languages" award that do not speak either English or Spanish as their first language.
    And despite the stereotype of Brazil being Hispanic, most Brazilians live "isolated" in a bubble from our Hermanos.
    Very few contents from Hispanic America, like Movies, TV shows, cinema, literature, are a hit here.

    One of the reasons is that most of population live far away from the borders, only in areas that border Hispanic America, like Uruguay and Argentina, you'll see a significant number of Brazilians speaking Spanish, no, Portunhol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bandeirante View Post
    são paulo state
    What? Most Spaniards in SP came from Andalusia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    What? Most Spaniards in SP came from Andalusia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Yes to both.
    Spaniards, for example, were/are the "invisible" immigrants, when people talk about immigration to Brazil, they focuse on Italians, Germans, etc., not the Spanish, which is ironic, they were the third largest Euro group to immigrate to Brazil during the XIX and XX centuries ( they came mainly from Galiza and Andalusia), after Portuguese and Italians, and way ahead of Germans.

    We also have distant Spanish blood in Brazil, they were present here during colonial times, specially during the Iberian Union, and were aborbed into the population, but their legacy can be noted in some surnames, like Camargo, Bueno, etc.
    You are correct, but just saying if we consider germanic peoples together they are not far behind, for example over 500.000 immigrants to Brazil were germans plus austrian plus swiss. A big part of all this people label themselves as germanic and also part speak Hunsrik. I would say german immigrants had an way higher fertility rate due to its rural character than spaniards that were mostly in urban areas.

    Last semester I did a thread about the 750.000 invisible spaniard immigrants, I saw them for the first time on the midia on a spanish novel about a galician ship to Brazil called Alto Mar. I never saw this group being represented on brazilian novela or any other brazilian midia. There is also a big naval disaster with them called Titanic Brasileiro when 1200 spaniards colided with a rock and sunked during a big Storm in São Paulo Coast. Few survived. Today, I would say Brazil has slight over 15 milion Spain descendants, not considering the colonial iberian mixes that would be much more dozens of milions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Iatê
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    [mbc] Roraima state; Contingo, Mau, Pium, Quino rivers. Population: 15,000 in Brazil (Crevels 2012). Ethnic population: 23,400 (2006 FUNASA). Total users in all countries: 15,930. Status: 6b* (Threatened). Alternate Names: Macusi, Macuxi, Makuchi, Makushi, Makusi, Makuxi, Teueia, Teweya. Dialects: None known. Not
    Its always a surprise to me to see how many native languages Brazil has, despite mostly are spoken by 200-600 people, thats still crazy.

    Its also interesting how German is the most spoken language after Portuguese, guys 1.5 milion standart german more 3-5 milion hunsruk speakers thats a lot! Brazil probably has more german speakers than any other country outside Europe? More than USA? Anyway, Brazil even has its onw german language, Hunsruk could be compared to Afrikanner in South Africa. Also 4 milion Talian speakers thats another a big number, its comparable to NZ population and more than the Boer population of Africa. Talian could also be compared to Afrikanner since it also has its peculiarities and not equal to italian.

    I dont know if it could be considered different languages/dialects, but some closed rural areas speak with strong influences from Medieval Portuguese, they say Tchuva instead of Chuva("xuva") and Barrer instead of Varrer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Its always a surprise to me to see how many native languages Brazil has, despite mostly are spoken by 200-600 people, thats still crazy.

    Its also interesting how German is the most spoken language after Portuguese, guys 1.5 milion standart german more 3-5 milion hunsruk speakers thats a lot! Brazil probably has more german speakers than any other country outside Europe? More than USA? Anyway, Brazil even has its onw german language, Hunsruk could be compared to Afrikanner in South Africa. Also 4 milion Talian speakers thats another a big number, its comparable to NZ population and more than the Boer population of Africa. Talian could also be compared to Afrikanner since it also has its peculiarities and not equal to italian.
    Here is the US by comparison: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-United-States

    You are right that even the US has fewer Standard German speakers than Brazil: 1,060,000 compared to 1.5 million. However, there are also 133,000 speakers of Pennsylvanian German (mainly Amish), 10,800 Hutterite speakers and 12,000 Plautdietsch speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Here is the US by comparison: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-United-States

    You are right that even the US has fewer Standard German speakers than Brazil: 1,060,000 compared to 1.5 million. However, there are also 133,000 speakers of Pennsylvanian German (mainly Amish), 10,800 Hutterite speakers and 12,000 Plautdietsch speakers.
    But thats still fewer than 1.5 milion, its arond 1.25 milion. Not to mention the milions of Hunsrik in Brazil. Maybe Hunsrik is not germanic anymore, but its certainly a germanic language derived from Central Europe dislocated to South America.

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