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    Default Classify Cherokee and Sioux Amerindians

    You don't need to classify them all individually,
    I just seek a general classification of their collective phenotypes.

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    They are cutie.

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    Nice photos, ♥ Lily ♥.

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    Collectively I would classify them as a group of Silvid.
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    Some individuals are admixed with Europeans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mutabor View Post
    Some individuals are admixed with Europeans.
    How would you classify all the people who are aren't admixed with Europeans in these very old photographs of their tribes?
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    Silvids. They have high Ancestral North Amerind (ANA) compared Mesoamerican and Andean population who have more Both ANA and South American Native (SNA) related ancestry. ANA and SNA are derived from Ancestral Native American cluster (ANA). Basal ANA diverged into an "Ancient Beringian" (AB) lineage at ca. 20 kya. The non-AB lineage further diverged into "Northern Native American" (NNA) and "Southern Native American" (SNA) lineages between about 17.5 and 14.6 kya. Most pre-Columbian lineages are derived from NNA and SNA, except for the American Arctic. ButSilvid phenotype comes from
    1) a higher amount of NNA
    2) More basal in phenotype to more tropical Amerindians. In other words, the ancestors of all Native Americans resembled more like a Sioux or a Cheyenne than a Mayan (who under went more phenotypic changes in response to changes in the Environment) or an Inuit (more recent Siberia introduction with less West Eurasian ANE admixture and more East Asain)

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    Palaeolithic Siberians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    How would you classify all the people who are aren't admixed with Europeans in these very old photographs of their tribes?
    It difficult to distinctish who Euro admixture when it comes to North American Native because they often have similar phenotypic overlap with West Eurasians that are actual native compared more southern Amerindians (mesoamericans, Andean and Amazonain). It is more easier to see Euro admixture in Mexican or S. Americans native becuase they much darker skin and more broad facial features.

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