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    I would really like to see them try.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Apparently. I think they may be holding out on it until they produce a capable long-range delivery system.
    Current max range that Iran can wield with a nuclear weapon is like 2500 km with a cruise missile and around 3500 km with Sejjil (solid fuel) and Khorramshahr (Liquid fuel). Both are IRBMs.

    1) They can be converted to ICBM with adding another stage.
    2) Iran can convert its Ghaem SLV with a reentry vehicle to an ICBM.

    Same vehicles with conventional warheads will reach less ranges like 2000-2500 km because then major weight will be taken by conventional explosive.

    BTW I AM A NEUTRAL MAN, I DO NOT WANT WAR

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    You are wrong. Israel is very independent in its strategic decision making.

    The real reason is that Israeli missile strike on Iran (their AF can't reach Iran without refueling over Iraq which is impossible) will allow Iran to use the excuse of Jewish aggression to increase enrichment to weapon grade Uranium. Current capacity allows production of like 20 Fission weapons of 20-30 Kt yield possible within limited frame of time. Imagine this combined with extremely efficient delivery vehicles that Iran currently has (battle proven)

    Nuclear Iran will result in Nuclear Saudia Arabia, Egypt, Turkey. No one wants that right.

    In reality, so far Israel has been witnessed as very tolerable to Iranian expansion in Syria, Lebanon. Probably they see Iran replacing Baathist Arab nationalist or Sunni Islamist ideology as more favorable to them in bigger picture.
    You are saying what I am saying. Isreal can't hit Iran with conventional weapons, they can only nuke them and they want to. USA won't allow it though and has promised Isreal that when the window gets too narrow they will do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    Current max range that Iran can wield with a nuclear weapon is like 2500 km with a cruise missile and around 3500 km with Sejjil (solid fuel) and Khorramshahr (Liquid fuel). Both are IRBMs.

    1) They can be converted to ICBM with adding another stage.
    2) Iran can convert its Ghaem SLV with a reentry vehicle to an ICBM.

    Same vehicles with conventional warheads will reach less ranges like 2000-2500 km because then major weight will be taken by conventional explosive.

    BTW I AM A NEUTRAL MAN, I DO NOT WANT WAR
    Iran is not a world power, it's a pretender. The more its people understand this the better the country will be.

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    And what do you think would happen if Iran would fire one on America ?

    You would get some 4000 to 6000 ICBM's raining down on Iran. Plus - 200 to 400 from Europe through NATO. Plus the fucking Israeli's as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    Well Isreal is eventually going to strike iran to prevent them from having nuclear weapons. Since Isreal can't achieve that by conventional means they will nuke Iran. So I much rather see USA bring Iran down the old fashioned way.
    If Isreal strike they will Conventional bunker busting munition, not nuke (wtf they are not that crazy). The experimental GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) could be first used by the IAF F-35I stealth fighter to evade Bavar 373 SAM radars with follow up planes using advanced ECM suites to suppress other SAM or preform a 'Wild Weasel' (Suppressing Air deference with Anti-Radiation missiles like HAARM)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    You are saying what I am saying. Isreal can't hit Iran with conventional weapons, they can only nuke them and they want to. USA won't allow it though and has promised Isreal that when the window gets too narrow they will do it.
    Many including Israelis (proper statesmen) have traditionally been supportive of Iran as a dominant power in Middle east. Iran took Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Yemen ... may be Bahrain will follow. What has US or Israel done ? nothing. EU has no stake in MENA or military spine anyways (remove France and EU is toothless)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantid View Post
    Iran is not a world power, it's a pretender. The more its people understand this the better the country will be.
    They are a regional (super) power, it's best not to under estimate them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    Persians are at least as cunning as Jews if not more. They can make a bomb right now but their goal is to have a delivery system first. The work on their nuclear capable ballistic missile is progressing rapidly. They also seek to have more and closer places to launch from, that is why Israel is bombing the shit out of them in Syria to prevent them from establishing bases and supply lines. They have succeeded in Iraq though (thank you mister Bush).
    American foreign policy goals never fails to amaze me for its stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    If Isreal strike they will Conventional bunker busting munition, not nuke (wtf they are not that crazy). The experimental GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) could be first used by the IAF F-35I stealth fighter to evade Bavar 373 SAM radars with follow up planes using advanced ECM suites to suppress other SAM or preform a 'Wild Weasel' (Suppressing Air deference with Anti-Radiation missiles like HAARM)
    Buddy .. please

    F-35 Adir can't reach Iran without refueling over either Iraq or Suriye. lol. Best Possible bet for IDF right now is to use their Jericho III IRBM mated with a deep penetration warhead which would fail against underground missile bases. Such a strike means JCPOA gone and enrichment towards fission warheads. Israel knows and hence does nothing.

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