Iran threatens US: We will destroy you

[Oghuz]

Iran is not a world power, it's a pretender. The more its people understand this the better the country will be.

I understand language of science not politics.

[Annihilus]

Many including Israelis (proper statesmen) have traditionally been supportive of Iran as a dominant power in Middle east. Iran took Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Yemen ... may be Bahrain will follow. What has US or Israel done ? nothing. EU has no stake in MENA or military spine anyways (remove France and EU is toothless)

I beg to differ, Isreal has currently no problems with the former arab adversaries. The treath comes solely from the shia side and it's an existential threat to them.

[Oghuz]

I beg to differ, Isreal has currently no problems with the former arab adversaries. The treath comes solely from the shia side and it's an existentional threat to them.

Its actually opposite. Iran and Israel have been traditional allies in Middle east. They cooperated during Iran-Arab war of 1980s. Iran despite being vocally very supportive of Palestinian movements has not provided any Palestinian group with anything other than artillery rockets or Assault rifles. Iranian Hezbollah instead clashed and defeated Arab Sunni Hamas during Syria conflict. Israel sabre rattles lots against Iran but does nothing against its expansion into Levant.

If one thinks that Iranian Mullahs are irrational players then they are living in a fools paradise. Iran is a very rational player and most of the world favors its hegemony that is why Mullah regime survived this long. Now its dying a slow and very natural death to be replaced by IRGC regime which will be more lethal.

[Synapsid]

And what do you think would happen if Iran would fire one on America ?

You would get some 4000 to 6000 ICBM's raining down on Iran. Plus - 200 to 400 from Europe through NATO. Plus the fucking Israeli's as well.

Iranian missile cannot reach US airspace, nor evade US air defence systems (THAAD, Patriot PAC3, Naval Aegis system, NORAD etc). But they are a big time threat to US regional bases in MENA region and even in the Mediterranean. But the US response will not be the use of ICBMs and they never operated that many ICBMs since the cold war, and US nuclear deterrence policy is determined by US Global strike command (AFGSC) which dependent more on stealth bomber and cruise missiles. Also I doubt they US would even use nuclear weapons in an this type senario, more liky they flood the conuntry with Tomahawks, AGM-158 JASSM, Popeyes etc followed by B2 bomb trucks bombing more deep strategic sites (underground enrichment sites, missile silos). The USAF will easily establish air supremacy with F-22s and F-35A being deployed in the middle east and preforming air defence suppression missions. Iran cannot win this war, only cause short term painful damage.

[Loki]

Trump has 4 years to solve the problem.

It's a "problem" of America's own making. And they can easily solve it: drop the murderous sanctions against Iran that are killing so many people, and come back to the nuclear deal which worked well.

[The Lawspeaker]

Iranian missile cannot reach US airspace, nor evade US air defence systems (THAAD, Patriot PAC3, Naval Aegis system, NORAD etc). But they are a big time threat to US regional bases in MENA region and even in the Mediterranean. But the US response will not be the use of ICBMs and they never operated that many ICBMs since the cold war, and US nuclear deterrence policy is determined by US Global strike command (AFGSC) which dependent more on stealth bomber and cruise missiles. Also I doubt they US would even use nuclear weapons in an this type senario, more liky they flood the conuntry with Tomahawks, AGM-158 JASSM, Popeyes etc followed by B2 bomb trucks bombing more deep strategic sites (underground enrichment sites, missile silos). The USAF will easily establish air supremacy with F-22s and F-35A being deployed in the middle east and preforming air defence suppression missions. Iran cannot win this war, only cause short term painful damage.

How do you think they would react if they would if Iran would fire a nuclear weapon at either America or Europe ? They'd have to respond with extreme violence otherwise the world sees them as a walk-over. No, I'd say they would immediately resort to full blown nuclear retaliation.

[Loki]

I beg to differ, Isreal has currently no problems with the former arab adversaries. The treath comes solely from the shia side and it's an existential threat to them.

Israel is too paranoid about Iran, that's the root of the problem.

[Annihilus]

Its actually opposite. Iran and Israel have been traditional allies in Middle east. They cooperated during Iran-Arab war of 1980s. Iran despite being vocally very supportive of Palestinian movements has not provided any Palestinian group with anything other than artillery rockets or Assault rifles. Iranian Hezbollah instead clashed and defeated Arab Sunni Hamas during Syria conflict. Israel sabre rattles lots against Iran but does nothing against its expansion into Levant.

If one thinks that Iranian Mullahs are irrational players then they are living in a fools paradise. Iran is a very rational player and most of the world favors its hegemony that is why Mullah regime survived this long. Now its dying a slow and very natural death to be replaced by IRGC regime which will be more lethal.

Well they have a rational approach to the irrational idea they can bring the 12th imam out of hiding by destroying Israel.

[Synapsid]

How do you think they would react if they would if Iran would fire a nuclear weapon at either America or Europe ? They'd have to respond with extreme violence otherwise the world sees them as a walk-over. No, I'd say they would immediately resort to full blown nuclear retaliation.

The thing is, from a Western policy point of view, Iran is already rouge and is holding its people hostage in a theocracy with the threat nuclear weapon knowing that the western cannot overthrown mullahs armed WMD like in Iraq, libya and (failed) Syria. So if they use Nuclear weapons, the casus belli would also involve the liberation of Iran just like in operation 'Iraqi freedom'.

[Annihilus]

Israel is too paranoid about Iran, that's the root of the problem.

I have my doubts but I sure hope you are right in this matter.