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    Default Does my father have distant African ancestry? How can I confirm?

    I posted this same question on anthrogenica but the south asians there got strangely quiet and refused to help me out, maybe because they are bothered by the idea.

    Basically right now I have .2% east African on 23andme(remains at high confidence), my father before the update had .4%(stayed at high confidence) and now he's down to .1% the rest has gone to Arab/Levantine(unlikely he has any).

    On most gedmatch calculators he shows a very slight African affinity compared to other Indians but not enough for it to consistently appear on oracles. This is his G25:

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25

    dad_scaled,0.034147,-0.071087,-0.156882,0.104006,-0.070782,0.05773,-0.003055,0.007615,0.036814,0.018041,-0.00341,0.004946,-0.003865,0.003303,-0.005565,-0.011535,0.002738,0.000887,0.001885,0.002251,0.001 872,-0.008903,-0.003328,-0.001205,-0.003712

    A model I've done:
    Dad scaled:
    "fit": 1.8074,
    "Velamas": 82.5,
    "Paniya": 10.83,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 5,
    "Ethiopian_Oromo": 1.67,

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    Yes, you might have sea pirate relatives bothering Tom Hanks on his ship.

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    Look I ve also done a model: do I have Ethiopian ancestry? Absofkinlutely no and I am half Russian half Central asian who scores the same African as your Hindustani dad
    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 1.8092% / 0.01809176
    35.6 Azeri_Turkey
    29.8 BaltoSlavic
    14.8 Finnic
    7.8 Iranic
    5.8 TurkoMongol
    4.6 West_Med
    1.6 Ethiopian_Oromo

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    Yes, you might have sea pirate relatives bothering Tom Hanks on his ship.
    So far no fully African DNA relatives but that thought makes me hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    So far no fully African DNA relatives but that thought makes me hard.
    Nothing that could bother you, now your my African brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakha View Post
    Look I ve also done a model: do I have Ethiopian ancestry? Absofkinlutely no and I am half Russian half Central asian who scores the same African as your Hindustani dad
    Target: GR_scaled
    Distance: 1.8092% / 0.01809176
    35.6 Azeri_Turkey
    29.8 BaltoSlavic
    14.8 Finnic
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    4.6 West_Med
    1.6 Ethiopian_Oromo
    Show you coordinates so we can compare. My family is from a part of the country where east africans have settled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    Nothing that could bother you, now your my African brother.
    He isn’t e1b1b he can’t join our club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakha View Post
    He isn’t e1b1b he can’t join our club
    But he is honorary black, like us.

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    Here is the thing Bakha it's not just about what you score on G25 but also how that affects the fit, if the fit distance goes up or stays the same it's likely not relevant. If it makes a large difference especially if it's a tiny amount then there's a much higher chance it is real. Let me demonstrate:

    "fit": 2.1331,
    "Velamas": 84.17,
    "Paniya": 10,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 5.83,

    "fit": 1.8405,
    "Velamas": 81.67,
    "Paniya": 11.67,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 5,
    "Ethiopian_Afar": 1.67,

    Notice the drop in fit distance despite only 1.67% going to Afar.

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