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    But they also have much longer working hours, no real holidays and no real unions to do the collective bargaining for them. Labour regulations ? I bet they barely know the concept. I can remember Disney trying something similar in France in 1992 (the French media and public really unleashed hell on them - the government went after them and the unions promised them a series of French-style strikes) - it nearly got them chucked out of Europe altogether. Then they surrendered and ran Euro Disney the French, the European way. Here employers don't run the economy on their own accord - here this is something done by the Holy Trinity of the Economy: employers organisations, unions and the state (the latter can act both in the role of employer - when dealing with the unions - or as mediator which then takes over and enshrines what has been decided). It should be no surprise that American companies enjoy a shitty reputation here and few people I know, would like to work for them since they always try to cut corners on what was agreed between them and the unions in the collective labour agreement.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    I am shocked myself on how expensive healthcare is in the US:
    This video was uploaded on 6th December 2019 - conveniently close to our General Election this Thursday 12th December... and I can see the political agenda behind the timing of the upload.

    Videos like that being put out so close to the General Election by Labour and Lib Dem supporters are designed to alarm UK people into panicking and believing all the spin being put out by both Labour and Lib Dems, that Boris will allow Trump to buy our National Health Service... so people will be misled by that lie and will vote for Labour or Lib Dems... which would be 100 times more damaging.

    Just like their constant Project Fearmongering tactics were used prior to the 2016 referendum to scare many voters into voting remain. The remain-stream media have been putting out a lot of fearmongering each day for the last 3 years in round 2 of Project Fear against Brexit.

    The NHS (National Health Service) is something the Remainiacs and Comrade Corbynov desperately keep trying to scare the UK public against Brexit.

    Trump quickly retracted his casual suggestion during his visit to the UK last summer suggesting that our NHS may be something he'd consider in US-UK trade talks when he stood on a podium next to the former UK PM Theresa May. When he realised the amount of panic and backlash on Brexit that it caused in the UK public, he soon retracted the suggestion. And Theresa May and the Conservative government have made it clear our NHS is not on the table in any post-Brexit US-UK trade deals.

    BoJo and Trump have both made it clear umpteen times to the public now that our NHS is not on the table in any post Brexit US-UK trade deals.

    Comrade Corbyn keeps trying to fearmonger the public about our NHS and using reports from Russia to try to deceive people into voting for the radically far-left communist Labour Party, and Lib Dems do the same - as they've made it clear they will cancel Brexit altogether if their parties seize power this Thursday.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    But they also have much longer working hours, no real holidays and no real unions to do the collective bargaining for them. Labour regulations ? I bet they barely know the concept. I can remember Disney trying something similar in France in 1992 (the French media and public really unleashed hell on them - the government went after them and the unions promised them a series of French-style strikes) - it nearly got them chucked out of Europe altogether. Then they surrendered and ran Euro Disney the French, the European way. Here employers don't run the economy on their own accord - here this is something done by the Holy Trinity of the Economy: employers organisations, unions and the state (the latter can act both in the role of employer - when dealing with the unions - or as mediator which then takes over and enshrines what has been decided).
    It's the same thing here as well since we're much more oriented to the US than to Europe where economic class discrimination is the norm. You Europeans at least have a chance to turn things around while it is beyond hopeless for both the US and Canada to salvage their lost countries to (((them))).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    Why was this video released on 6th December 2019, so close to our General Election this Thursday?

    BoJo and Trump have both made it clear umpteen times now that our NHS is not on the table in any post Brexit US-UK trade deals.

    Videos like that being put out so close to the General Election are designed to alarm UK people into voting Labour or Lib Dems... which would be 100 times more damaging.
    But it's not talking about the healthcare system in Britain but rather in the US, and yet, the healthcare system in the US is the most horrible in the developed world. These Brits are simply showing their reactions on the prices of healthcare in the US which made me shocked honestly as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    Why was this video released on 6th December 2019, so close to our General Election this Thursday?

    BoJo and Trump have both made it clear umpteen times now that our NHS is not on the table in any post Brexit US-UK trade deals.

    Videos like that being put out so close to the General Election are designed to alarm UK people into voting Labour or Lib Dems... which would be 100 times more damaging.
    That's not true, Lily and you know that full well:



    And Boris is not in any position to stop Trump. Britain, lovely country that it is, is not the British Empire. It is not in any position to set conditions or make demands. Their trip to Washington would be like walking to Canossa with their hat in hand.
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    There may be a lot wrong with the Common Market but when you go for America - then you've just leapt from a cold bath into the Arctic Sea.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    That's not true, Lily and you know that full well:

    Never trust the greatest whore of Zion of America in history for anything, especially when it comes to it's Zionist Orwellian foreign policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    There may be a lot wrong with the Common Market but when you go for America - then you've just leapt from a cold bath into the Arctic Sea.
    It's like going from a pool with piss mixed in to a pool that is filled with shit, piss, human corpses and animal carcasses. With America never relax!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I doubt that. Since the average American lives in the forgotten Fly Over country where jobs are scarce. And if he lives in the cities - he is paying through the nose for everything. So the American wage pays for little and his standard of living is still lower. He just has more space - that's it.
    Checking calmly sources about HDI, Life Expectancy and Average Incomes United States are far from being bad, actually they are going pretty well.

    First we've to think how big their country is, much likely they can cover entire Europe except for Russia. Even so their life expectancy is about 3 years less than Netherlands, which is admirable for a country with high obesity and with no healthcare system, if we take Europe as a whole and calculate their life expectancy the result will be worse.

    Also, check how countries like Luxembourg, Lichtenstein and Monaco get better statistics when it comes for wealthier and health quality, imo smaller countries are easy to administrate, then it is unfair to compare a giant country like US with some small countries in NW Europe, but if we take into consideration some american states with the same size of small european countries a lot of times they will get better statistics as a whole.

    My point here is if Maryland was a country today marylanders or whatever they call who born that state would be amongst top 5 countries with better incomes in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    It's like going from a pool with piss mixed in to a pool that is filled with shit, piss, human corpses and animal carcasses. With America never relax!
    And as I said about the NHS "not being on the table": And Boris is not in any position to stop Trump. Britain, lovely country that it is, is not the British Empire. It is not in any position to set conditions or make demands. Their trip to Washington would be like walking to Canossa with their hat in hand.

    When Trump wants something, the Brits will just have to take it up the arse because they are outside our collective protection. How unpleasant it may seem - this is the case. This is why the Swedes or the Dutch can talk to America on the basis of equality - because we are backed by a 500 million strong market - the biggest in the world. Britain seems to forget that they are not the British Empire.



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