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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I agree completely. Here the welfare state and generally accessible healthcare are a fait accompli, and we literally refer to them as verworvenheden (achievements) and we wear them as a national badge of honour. From Left to Right - you'd find no people willing to tear them down and it would be political suicide to do so. It had nothing to do with socialism - the whole social building came from liberal, protestant and catholic ideals (thus two Christian parties backed it) and came into being as a "social improvement" (yes, that's how they called it) or "an end to the Social Question" to protect the honest workman and his family.
    America is becoming like how France used to be before the French revolution, and honestly, I would bet the upcoming American revolution would be more bloody than it's French counterpart. You can't change the system by simply voting since the system in itself is corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    America is becoming like how France used to be before the French revolution, and honestly, I would bet the upcoming American revolution would be more bloody than it's French counterpart. You can't change the system by simply voting since the system in itself is corrupt.
    That's something that plagues us all but in the case of America, the ferocity of the corruption is quite shocking.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    It's quite true sadly, most suspicion and fear that regular people have is towards socialism or communism and not directed towards the ultra powerful elites. You can have a fair system which does not suffer from economic vampirism while not being "communist". The two are not mutually exclusive.
    The Leftists like to claim the glory because they rewrote some laws and stamped their names on them but the basic building of Western Europe's welfare states is either Christian or Liberal or both.. They did this in order to block the socialists. So you can have your social system and still be a right-wing country.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    It's quite true sadly, most suspicion and fear that regular people have is towards socialism or communism and not directed towards the ultra powerful elites. You can have a fair system which does not suffer from economic vampirism while not being "communist". The two are not mutually exclusive.
    How do you think Trump got into office, lol. Trump is a billionaire tycoon who has very close ties with many powerful figures of the world. Do people, especially his supporter, honestly think he cares about the working class of America?


    I hate communism, but I also equally hate the rich and corporate elites that exploit the poorer class peoples of the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    America is becoming like how France used to be before the French revolution, and honestly, I would bet the upcoming American revolution would be more bloody than it's French counterpart. You can't change the system by simply voting since the system in itself is corrupt.
    Nah, it's different from that. People were literally starving back then and they didn't have much to keep themselves entertained. America is different where everybody is fat from high calorie garbage food and there is no shortage of meaningless bullshit for one to indulge in from Kim Kardashian's ass to football.

    I can see a situation where America devolves into a Russia-like state but a revolution or civil war does not seem to be on the horizon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    Nah, it's different from that. People were literally starving back then and they didn't have much to keep themselves entertained. America is different where everybody is fat from high calorie garbage food and there is no shortage of meaningless bullshit for one to indulge in from Kim Kardashian's ass to football.

    I can see a situation where America devolves into a Russia-like state but a revolution or civil war does not seem to be on the horizon.
    Makes a lot of sense sadly. Bread and circuses and they would no revolt as what some Roman politician said 2,000 years ago. If anything, the USA is becoming like the Roman empire before it collapsed in the 5th century AD but in a more grander scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akira View Post
    Nah, it's different from that. People were literally starving back then and they didn't have much to keep themselves entertained. America is different where everybody is fat from high calorie garbage food and there is no shortage of meaningless bullshit for one to indulge in from Kim Kardashian's ass to football.

    I can see a situation where America devolves into a Russia-like state but a revolution or civil war does not seem to be on the horizon.
    about half of american workers make less than 30k a year, yet we have people like Jeff Bezos with over 100 billion dollars.....and it's only getting worse...

    that is absolutely NOT a sustainable system and it will collapse eventually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    How do you think Trump got into office, lol. Trump is a billionaire tycoon who has very close ties with many powerful figures of the world. Do people, especially his supporter, honestly think he cares about the working class of America?


    I hate communism, but I also equally hate the rich and corporate elites that exploit the poorer class peoples of the nation.
    America is very polarized right now and someone who dislikes the left's social policies will have to join the Republicans who are openly corporatist shills. A lot of people on the right turn a blind eye to the power at the top due to their socio-cultural anxiety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    about half of american workers make less than 30k a year, yet we have people like Jeff Bezos with over 100 billion dollars.....and it's only getting worse...

    that is absolutely NOT a sustainable system and it will collapse eventually
    That's extreme form of capitalism for ya.

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