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    Hello hello there folks!
    Ever since the last two months I've been interested in studying languages, particularly Proto Indo-European, which is a language shrouded in deep mystery.
    I happened to come across some PIE cognates that share similar word structure to some words used in the albanian language, and how they connect to other info European languages.
    Now keep in mind that I am no linguistic expert and the data in using derives from etymonline.com
    PIE cognates are kinda scare and not many of them have been fully attested. Likewise,such words are hypothetical (which means that they may have been slightly different or so, so take it with a grain of salt)
    Without much blabbering, let's begin
    PIE cognate *melg- meaning "to run off" or "to milk an animal" in the Gheg dialect it's "mel" wheras in the Tosk one it's "mjel/ë"
    PIE cognate *gembh- meaning "tooth". In Albanian it's translated to "dhëmb" (Tosk dialect) or "dhâm" or "dhamm" (Gheg dialect)
    PIE cognate *ters- which apparently means "to dry" in English, in Albanian it translates to "têr=dry" "tere= to dry it" or "terët/tert" which again means dry. In the Tosk dialect it's represented in a slightly more different manner as "thatë/thatësireë" which means dry=dryness but distantly related to "thirst"
    PIE cognate *deru-/*dreu which means "steadfast" or "wood/tree/derivatives of said thing, in Albanian it means wood which translates to "dru" (Tosk) or "drû/drúé" in Gheg. , It could also form the word "drejt/drejtë" which means straight
    PIE cognate *kap- meaning "to grasp" in albanian this hasn't shifted or changed much from the original cognate. It translates to "kap" in both the same dialect which means "to grasp" but also "to catch"
    PIE cognate *leg- (this one is distantly related) which means "to gather/collect" in Albanian it translates to "mledh" (Gheg dialect) or "mbledhē" (Tosk one)
    PIE cognate *leigh- meaning "to lock" is somewhat related to the Albanian word "lëpijë" (Tosk) or "lpéj/lpî" (Gheg)
    PIE cognate *leig- which means "to tie" "to bind" in albanian it translates to "lidh" (in both dialects)
    PIE cognate *leikw- which means "leave to, leave". In albanian this is distantly related and translates to "dil" telling someone to leave/go outside.
    PIE cognate *legwh- which means "lightweight" "not very heavy". In albanian it translates to "lehtë" (Tosk) or "lêt" (Gheg)
    PIE cognate *kaput- which apparently means "head" The Gheg Albanian translation is somewhat more related, "kaptinë/kaptên" In the tosk dialect it's less similar and translates to "kokë"
    PIE cognate *kan- meaning "sing/to sing". In albanian, again in the Gheg dialect this seems more related "kâng"=song "kno" to sing. Wheras in the Tosk dialect it's "këngë"/"këndoj"
    PIE cognate *kae-id- meaning which means "to strike" this one is more related to the tosk albanian word "godit".
    PIE cognate *kakka- (sorry for this one) which means to poop/defecate in Albanian it translates to "kaka" in both dialects.
    PIE cognate *re- "to reason" it translates to "arsye" see kinda similar (kind of)
    PIE cognate *reg- "move in a straight line/straight" in albanian it translates to "drejt" in both dialects
    PIE cognate *rei- which means "to run, flow" in Albanian it translates to "rrjedh=flow to flow" (Tosk dialect) or "rredh" in the Gheg dialect. The word run in the albanian language is "vrap/vrapoj" so the R and a are derivatives of the "ei" part of the aforementioned cognate
    PIE cognate *tag- which has many meanings (see etymonline.com for more) but the most similar to Albanian is "to speak" or "thuaj" (Tosk) "thuj" (Gheg)
    PIE cognate *teks- "to weave/make fabric" in albaian it's "thur/thurje" in both dialects. It also translates to "end" which is almost unrelated.
    PIE cognate *ten- which means "to stretch" this one is an interesting one because it's more related to the Gheg word "shtrêj/shtrêjé" compared to the tosk one which is "shtri/shtrijë"
    PIE cognate *tere- which has many meanings but the most similar one to Albanian is "overcome" which translates to "tejkaloj"
    PIE cognate *terkw- which means "twist" here it translates to "tundë" (Tosk) or "tun" (Gheg)
    PIE cognate *ye- which means "throw" in Albanian it's distantly related and translates to both "hedh" in both dialects.
    PIE cognate *ost- meaning "bone" translates to "kockë (Tosk) or "koc" (Gheg)
    PIE cognate *pau- meaning "fee, little" in albanian it translates to "Pak" in both dialects
    PIE cognate *peig- which means to cut. In albanian it translates to "pres" (Tosk) "prej" (Gheg)
    PIE cognate *ad- meaning "to or near" in Albanian it translates to "afer" in both dialects.
    PIE cognate *ag- which means "to move forth, drive etc" in albanian drive translates to "ngas"
    PIE cognate *agro- "field" it translates to "âr" (Gheg) or "arë" (Tosk)
    PIE cognate *aik- which means to posses something it translates to "Kam" in both dialects
    PIE cognate *aiw- meaning "life, vital" in albanian however this seems kinda distantly related and translates to "jetë" spelled yee teh
    PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.
    PIE cognate *da- meaning "divide" again this one has more similarity in the Gheg dialect translating to "dà" where's the Tosk on its "ndajë"
    PIE cognate *perk- which means "pig,pork" etc in albanian strengely the Gheg translation is "derk" wheras the Tosk one is "derr"
    PIE cognate *gel- meaning "freeze" again it's more similar in the geg dialect "ngréj" compared to the tosk one which is "ngrijë"
    PIE cognate *genu- meaning "knee" in Albanian translates to "gju/gjuri" (Tosk) and "gjumi" (Gheg)
    PIE cognate *bhau- meaning "strike" or "beat" here it translates to rrah which is distantly related of course.
    PIE cognate *bheidh- "to trust, persuade" which in albanian trust translates to "besoj" and "persuade" to "bind"
    PIE cognate *nebh- meaning "cloud"very distant to the cognate it translates to "re/ré" in both dialects
    PIE cognate *nek- which means "death" it translates to "vdekje" (Tosk) or "dêk/dêké" in Gheg
    PIE cognate *magh- "to be able" translates to "mundem" (Tosk) and "munem" (Gheg)
    That's it guys. It concludes everything I could find on the internet
    This is a comparison of how come Albanian every day words originate from the PIE language. I couldn't find any more cognates but will add more once I I'll find any.
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    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
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    Hm
    No one seems interested in this.
    How come?
    Not even Albanians themselves.
    I feel lonely.
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    you look more scythian sarmatian than mixed blondes(they mixed with I)

    you are true r1b
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    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
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    Basal R and Q are too old to be directly associated with any linguistic group.

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    Code:
    IE cognate *leig- which means "to tie" "to bind" in albanian it translates to "lidh" (in both dialects)
    A lega in Romanian. If you tie a knot, it's a înnoda.

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    PIE cognate *kaput- which apparently means "head" The Gheg Albanian translation is somewhat more related, "kaptinë/kaptên" In the tosk dialect it's less similar and translates to "kokë"
    Cap/căpățână in Romanian.

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    PIE cognate *kakka- (sorry for this one) which means to poop/defecate in Albanian it translates to "kaka" in both dialects.
    Caca in Romanian. Since lots of people I've heard read the c as in choose, in Romanian a c is a k or like the c in complete, unless it's ce/ci where it's like Chinese.

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    PIE cognate *reg- "move in a straight line/straight" in albanian it translates to "drejt" in both dialects
    Drept in romanian means right or we would say ”Mergi drept înainte” which means go straight ahead.

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    PIE cognate *ye- which means "throw" in Albanian it's distantly related and translates to both "hedh" in both dialects.
    Yeet confirmed PIE word.

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    PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.
    I presume the s would be read as a ш , then it would be a ședea (to sit somewhere) in Romanian.

    [code]IE cognate *genu- meaning "knee" in Albanian translates to "gju/gjuri" (Tosk) and "gjumi" (Gheg)[/co

    Genunchi in Romanian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illyrius View Post
    Hm
    No one seems interested in this.
    How come?
    Not even Albanians themselves.
    I feel lonely.
    E ca domethene kjo Kosova eshte zemra e Serbise ? ...ke pire raki dellinje kur ke bere avatarin ? keto tema jane perfolur 500 here deri tani prandaj...na kane lodhur

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    I'm not a linguistic specialist but I've always been fascinated by languages, their development, interaction and so on. I've noticed by accident a very interesting fact: the word "Squirrel" have similar words in Albanian and Bulgarian and derives from Proto Balto - Slavic. It is "keter" in Albanian and katerica in Bulgarian (-ica is a suffix, the root is kater which derived from "to climb" ). All other European languages have totally different words for this animal.

    Others from your post:
    PIE cognate *ost- meaning "bone" translates to "kockë (Tosk) or "koc" (Gheg)

    A "bone" is "kost" in Bulgarian.


    PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.

    To" sit down" is the verb "sedya".

    wood/tree/derivatives of said thing, in Albanian it means wood which translates to "dru" (Tosk) or "drû/drúé" in Gheg.

    Wood is "drvo".
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    Code:
    IE cognate *leig- which means "to tie" "to bind" in albanian it translates to "lidh" (in both dialects)
    A lega in Romanian. If you tie a knot, it's a înnoda.

    Code:
    PIE cognate *kaput- which apparently means "head" The Gheg Albanian translation is somewhat more related, "kaptinë/kaptên" In the tosk dialect it's less similar and translates to "kokë"
    Cap/căpățână in Romanian.

    Code:
    PIE cognate *kakka- (sorry for this one) which means to poop/defecate in Albanian it translates to "kaka" in both dialects.
    Caca in Romanian. Since lots of people I've heard read the c as in choose, in Romanian a c is a k or like the c in complete, unless it's ce/ci where it's like Chinese.

    Code:
    PIE cognate *reg- "move in a straight line/straight" in albanian it translates to "drejt" in both dialects
    Drept in romanian means right or we would say ”Mergi drept înainte” which means go straight ahead.

    Code:
    PIE cognate *ye- which means "throw" in Albanian it's distantly related and translates to both "hedh" in both dialects.
    Yeet confirmed PIE word.

    Code:
    PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.
    I presume the s would be read as a ш , then it would be a ședea (to sit somewhere) in Romanian.

    [code]IE cognate *genu- meaning "knee" in Albanian translates to "gju/gjuri" (Tosk) and "gjumi" (Gheg)[/co

    Genunchi in Romanian.
    Oh!
    I'm impressed by the how similar those languages are to each other. I mean yeah they're both IE languages but they seem to have more similarities between eachother.
    Know any more words that are alike?
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    you look more scythian sarmatian than mixed blondes(they mixed with I)

    you are true r1b
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    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    Basal R and Q are too old to be directly associated with any linguistic group.

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    The etymology online website doesn't seem that accurate in tracing some PIE cognates. It lacks many of them likewise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    you look more scythian sarmatian than mixed blondes(they mixed with I)

    you are true r1b
    Quote Originally Posted by Noff View Post
    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    Basal R and Q are too old to be directly associated with any linguistic group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illyrius View Post
    Hello hello there folks!
    Ever since the last two months I've been interested in studying languages, particularly Proto Indo-European, which is a language shrouded in deep mystery.
    I happened to come across some PIE cognates that share similar word structure to some words used in the albanian language, and how they connect to other info European languages.
    Now keep in mind that I am no linguistic expert and the data in using derives from etymonline.com
    PIE cognates are kinda scare and not many of them have been fully attested. Likewise,such words are hypothetical (which means that they may have been slightly different or so, so take it with a grain of salt)
    Without much blabbering, let's begin


    That's it guys. It concludes everything I could find on the internet
    This is a comparison of how come Albanian every day words originate from the PIE language. I couldn't find any more cognates but will add more once I I'll find any.
    numbers 1-10 and the verb to be - është are obvious addition for that list

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    [QUOTE = Illyrius; 6392569] Електронният уебсайт за етимология не изглежда толкова точен при проследяване на някои когнити от PIE. Липсват много от тях по същия начин. [/ QUOTE]

    How is the Albanian word for wind and fog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAGANE View Post
    [QUOTE = Illyrius; 6392569] Електронният уебсайт за етимология не изглежда толкова точен при проследяване на някои когнити от PIE. Липсват много от тях по същия начин. [/ QUOTE]

    How is the Albanian word for wind and fog?
    Wind is "erë"
    And fog is "mjegull"
    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    you look more scythian sarmatian than mixed blondes(they mixed with I)

    you are true r1b
    Quote Originally Posted by Noff View Post
    I saw him. Looks like ancient Roman + South Slavic or Magyar
    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    Basal R and Q are too old to be directly associated with any linguistic group.

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