Worldwide, 1 in 3 men aren't the biological father to their children. Paternity fraud is an epidemic

[The Lawspeaker]

Will do.

Consequently - what happens in the Levant is also not our problem. Your Semitic brothers would do well to understand it (but you know they won't).

[Kamal900]

Consequently - what happens in the Levant is also not our problem. Your Semitic brothers would do well to understand it (but you know they won't).

Well, I don't care about other Levantine Arabs besides my own people. I care mostly about my friends and family for the most part really.

[Dragoon]

Not sure I believe those numbers. They seem too high.
Its possible people who take these tests are more likely to have questionable histories too.

Either way promiscuous culture/people arent helping in improving this.

[Kamal900]

Not sure I believe those numbers. They seem too high.
Its possible people who take these tests are more likely to have questionable histories too.

Either way promiscuous culture/people arent helping in improving this.

Pretty much this. The stats are way too high to be accurate.

[Longbowman]

The proof is my eyes. In Russia, such situations are at least 15%; in the West, perhaps even more, as far as I can tell from the 2 western TV channels that broadcast here. Plus the words of comrade Lawspeaker and other users above, I do not think that they are interested in lying on an anonymous forum. Or are you only interested in the conclusions of the "British scientists"?

Crimean, your personal observations are meaningless and I am not drawing on the 'conclusions of British scientists,' but, if I were, at least I'd be drawing on scientific conclusions and not the retarded brain farts of a Russian peasant.

1) I'm not your friend.
2) a representative of your tribe who calls someone a degenerate, it's like a blind Stevie Wonder who calls someone black.

Crimean, you are a chubby-chaser who posts porn every week, I do not need to go into any more detail to explain why you are a degenerate, my friend.

I, as an individual, on the other hand, am degeneration free, regardless of your reactionary Jew-hating statements. Can you do no better?

[Longbowman]

Pretty much this. I've read all the articles he had posted, and not a single one ever stated that 1/3rd of the men of the world are not the biological fathers of their children. In fact, while most of the articles are very old and outdated, the Nigerian one is the only recent article in the whole thing, and that itself even stated that the UK and France are under 2% which is completely contradictory on what the man was saying. In fact, the Nigerian article even admitted that the stats showing over 30% of Nigerian men not being biological fathers of their children are NOT backed by any institution but rather stated by the condom company of said country. I mean, let's be honest and frank here, my Jewish bro, most human beings don't use their brains to critically analyze things on their own these days which is why most would fall prey to such peoples on the internet. I used to be like that as well before I changed myself and my way of thinking.

Precisely, and thank you for reading through their dishonest attempts to make it look like their accusations have evidence, my friend. Note how I critiqued their own sources and they responded with denial, anger, and anti-Semitism, because they are inferior people, who obviously didn't read the sources, even though they were posted on the thread. Note also how your eloquent defense of the concept of statistics has led to comments and arguments about how you should stick your nose out of European affairs, as if that's relevant. Pathetic - upset the foundation of the house of cards and it tumbles down to reveal the entire thing's made of jokers.

Let's not be charitable, though: the imbeciles on this thread want this to be true. They are bored, frustrated, irrelevant people, many of them in their 30s or even 40s, who have achieved nothing and would rather be living in the Kali Yuga than confronting the inadequacy of their existence.

We are facing confirmation bias across the board here. Anything to avoid reflection and self-awareness.

@morons: your thumbs down won't make my post less true.

I don't care honestly. If you managed to get all the data from all the couples of the world to get the exact percentage of paternity fraud then you're a hero. Until then, your fellow cultists in the MGTOW community are just as bad as their feminist counterparts. The burden of proof is on you, not on me. And so far, you haven't managed to prove anything here except for pity assumptions and allegations.

#rekt

Also even if what he were saying were true (which as we all know, it isn't, I mean for fuck's sake this is barrel-scraping desperation and stupidity at its height) at this point the argument can be flipped to 'if your argument were correct, 30% would still be no more valid than 2%.' A far cry from the arrogant certainty of the first 5 pages of this absurd thread.

[Kamal900]

Crimean, your personal observations are meaningless and I am not drawing on the 'conclusions of British scientists,' but, if I were, at least I'd be drawing on scientific conclusions and not the retarded brain farts of a Russian peasant.



Crimean, you are a chubby-chaser who posts porn every week, I do not need to go into any more detail to explain why you are a degenerate, my friend.

I, as an individual, on the other hand, am degeneration free, regardless of your reactionary Jew-hating statements. Can you do no better?

It's typical for them to resort to racial slurs at you when they begin to lose their arguments and getting cornered by you and others who think for themselves. It's called ad-hominem attacks, and really, there's a psychological reasoning behind it:

Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"),[1] short for argumentum ad hominem, typically refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.[2] The terms ad mulierem[3] and ad feminam[4] have been used specifically when the person receiving the criticism is female.

Fallacious ad hominem reasoning is categorized among informal fallacies,[5][6][7] more precisely as a genetic fallacy, a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.

An ad hominem fallacy occurs when one attacks the character of an interlocutor in an attempt to refute their argument. Insulting someone is not necessarily an instance of an ad hominem fallacy. For example, if one supplies sufficient reasons to reject an interlocutor's argument and adds a slight character attack at the end, this character attack is not necessarily fallacious. Whether it is fallacious depends on whether or not the insult is used as a reason against the interlocutor's argument. An ad hominem occurs when an attack on the interlocutor's character functions as a response to an interlocutor's argument/claim.[12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hom...n_with_insults

Let's say that you have written a book on the holocaust or any controversial topic for that matter. For people like him, they would throw your books in a fire simply because you're Jewish rather than reading your books from page to page, critically analyze your books and coming up their own conclusions and so on. I don't know what do you call such people, but for me, it's very infantile way of thinking just to protect their little egos from getting hurt and etc. In other words, they hate to admit that they're wrong and people correcting them, especially if such people are the sort of people that they hate like Jews or Arabs and so on.

[Crimean]

Crimean, your personal observations are meaningless and I am not drawing on the 'conclusions of British scientists,' but, if I were, at least I'd be drawing on scientific conclusions and not the retarded brain farts of a Russian peasant.

You understand very well that in order to conclude that this problem exists, some scientific research is not needed. Look at your friends (or their friends) - this problem is everywhere. Yes, one can argue with methods for assessing the accuracy of the problem scale.
Where does such hatred for peasants (probably workers too) come from? - a class whose kindness and naivety still allows a certain layer of the "elite" to parasitize on their work. Most importantly, do not hate them too much, otherwise it usually ends badly.

Crimean, you are a chubby-chaser who posts porn every week, I do not need to go into any more detail to explain why you are a degenerate, my friend.

This is a kind of positive propaganda as opposed to Mary. If you do not like it, then the problem is most likely in you. But most likely you like it.

I, as an individual, on the other hand, am degeneration free, regardless of your reactionary Jew-hating statements. Can you do no better?

A bold statement, but unfounded. Mortimer has a conclusion about schizophrenia, but local users can’t find out the truth about your (and mine) mental health without proofs.
Besides, if you are "normal", then what is your interest in being a moderator here and reading a whole forum of degenerates' posts? Enjoy a little bit of power at least somewhere, if in real life there are problems with this?

It's typical for them to resort to racial slurs at you when they begin to lose their arguments and getting cornered by you and others who think for themselves. It's called ad-hominem attacks, and really, there's a psychological reasoning behind it:

We did not even start a dispute, for lack of a subject of dispute. It’s just that I was extremely indignant that the moderator of this forum called me a degenerate in response to an innocent question.

In any case, Happy New Year to both of you, and let all the quarrels remain in the old year.

[Longbowman]

You understand very well that in order to conclude that this problem exists, some scientific research is not needed.

With all respect, this sentence would shame a toddler.

Look at your friends (or their friends) - this problem is everywhere.

Now, I am only 26, and as such not many of my peers have children (a handful do), but I cannot think of a single person I personally know or have heard of whom I know has experienced this. I assume they exist, but I do not know them or of them. Who knows, maybe every single one is illegitimate, but I have neither proof nor suspicion in any of the cases.

Perhaps you just live in a particularly degenerate circle, but I doubt it.

Either way your 'argument' is 'fuck stats' which is a very poor argument. My critique was of the evidence the original argument used, as stated in my conversation with Toppo. You have side-stepped this obvious dishonesty in OP to defend the overall point and critique my integrity, which in my eyes, only casts aspersions on your own dishonesty.

Where does such hatred for peasants (probably workers too) come from? - a class whose kindness and naivety still allows a certain layer of the "elite" to parasitize on their work. Most importantly, do not hate them too much, otherwise it usually ends badly.

In the UK it's pseudo-ironic slang for uneducated idiot, don't read into it too heavily.

This is a kind of positive propaganda as opposed to Mary. If you do not like it, then the problem is most likely in you. But most likely you like it.

Right, here's where you 'earn' your thumbs down.

1) Mary is a deluded psychopath, she does not need to be countered in the same way flat-earthers and children who aver the moon is made of cheese need to be countered. Engaging with her seriously validates her and her perspective. Ignore her.
2) Porn is always degenerate regardless of the content. True, there are more degenerate things and less degenerate things, but the degeneracy is inherent to pornography.
3) I, and the majority of people in the UK and the western world, do not enjoy looking at the majority of the women you post. If my memory serves me well, you like fat women.
4) Do not tell me what I like. I will not tell you you like slender, toned women. I do not believe it is true, and I do not need to convince myself you do to validate my sexual preferences (probably because mine are conventional, unlike yours). Either way it is rude.

A bold statement, but unfounded.

Alright: nothing I have ever said here has revealed degeneracy on my part. You, on the other hand...

Besides, if you are "normal", then what is your interest in being a moderator here and reading a whole forum of degenerates' posts? Enjoy a little bit of power at least somewhere, if in real life there are problems with this?

I read maybe 5% of the posts here, probably a lot less. I never asked to be made moderator or admin. I don't mind it - change usernames, delete threads on request, mostly, but it wasn't a goal of mine. Also, when it happened, I was 20 and in university with a lot of spare time to kill.

We did not even start a dispute, for lack of a subject of dispute. It’s just that I was extremely indignant that the moderator of this forum called me a degenerate in response to an innocent question.

Your question was not innocent, you accused me of maliciously trying to engage in subterfuge for whatever gain. The verb you used was 'pretend,' which implicitly includes malice aforethought. You insulted me and my integrity. Don't play the ingenue, it doesn't suit you.

Your post, in case you'd forgotten:

A familiar methodology - to pretend that the problem does not exist, but to a person who is trying to talk about it, to ridicule, to declare a fool or an incel etc.
For some reason, this methodology is now applied to all people who "rock the boat." Why do you interested in understatement the problems of society?

Inb4 'but I honestly believe you are a lying little shit, therefore I reserve the right to call you a lying little shit.' If you step into a ring don't be surprised when you get punched, degenerate.

In any case, Happy New Year to both of you, and let all the quarrels remain in the old year.

Feel free not to respond to my rebuttal, in that case.

[Duffmannn]

Some of your children could be mine.