Possible Middle Eastern ancestry?

[Ljubic]

My dad gets weird scores which dont fit in with the rest of his result breakdown.

First his high Red Sea on Eurogenes K13:
Red_Sea 3.45 Pct

Then the scores on 23andMe:


Also G25:


Could this be the result of some unknown middle eastern ancestor or part of some native balkan admixture?

Just curious of some opinions.

[Insuperable]

Can you post results of various gedmatch calculators?

[Adamm]

Can you post full K13 and full K36?

[TheOldNorth]

obviously he has like 1 turk ancestor from 400 years ago or something

[Insuperable]

I found results of your dad you posted in your 23andme thread. I can erase them if you don't want me to show them publicly.

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.45
2 North_Atlantic 20.75
3 East_Med 16.22
4 West_Med 15.23
5 West_Asian 10.97
6 Red_Sea 4.54

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 8.133100
2 Moldavian @ 8.158525
3 Romanian @ 8.702277
4 Bulgarian @ 9.311501
5 Croatian @ 11.420136
6 Hungarian @ 14.299905
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 17.589355
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 18.671915
9 Austrian @ 19.013071
10 Ukrainian @ 19.103321
11 South_Polish @ 19.152969
12 East_German @ 20.266310
13 Southwest_Russian @ 21.514219
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 21.646276
15 Polish @ 22.649935
16 Tatar @ 23.050436
17 Russian_Smolensk @ 24.047909
18 Estonian_Polish @ 24.655935
19 North_Italian @ 25.358210
20 Belorussian @ 25.382063

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.07
2 North_Sea 18.30
3 East_Med 14.45
4 West_Med 11.35
5 Eastern_Euro 10.86
6 West_Asian 9.27
7 Atlantic 8.57
8 Red_Sea 3.94

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moldavian @ 10.195410
2 Romanian @ 10.893278
3 Bulgarian @ 12.216893
4 Serbian @ 12.262586
5 Croatian @ 13.481596
6 Hungarian @ 14.162113
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.291906
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.352713
9 Ukrainian @ 17.835049
10 Austrian @ 17.971149
11 South_Polish @ 18.404079
12 Greek @ 20.294704
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 20.767210
14 East_German @ 20.872385
15 Southwest_Russian @ 21.543428
16 Russian_Smolensk @ 21.643198
17 Polish @ 21.728180
18 Belorussian @ 23.455805
19 Ashkenazi @ 23.878849
20 Estonian_Polish @ 24.072868

Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 4.03 Pct
Armenian 0.21 Pct
Basque 1.86 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 7.27 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.90 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 19.69 Pct
East_Med 5.37 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.02 Pct
Fennoscandian 3.21 Pct
French 4.44 Pct
Iberian 2.80 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 18.79 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 1.07 Pct
North_African 1.37 Pct
North_Atlantic 6.19 Pct
North_Caucasian 0.31 Pct
North_Sea 2.02 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.41 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 4.14 Pct
West_Med 0.91 Pct

PuntDNAL K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_European 49.18
2 Mediterranean 26.54
3 Caucasian 11.06
4 SW_Asian 10.20
5 Horn_Of_Africa 2.31

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 7.939699
2 Serbian @ 8.858267
3 Hungarian @ 8.904469
4 Austrian @ 9.196777
5 Bosnian @ 10.054993
6 Slovenian @ 10.156669
7 South_German @ 10.760468
8 Utahn_White @ 11.136331
9 Irish @ 11.506269
10 Orcadian @ 11.854652
11 French @ 11.976624
12 English @ 12.206156
13 Macedonian @ 12.240404
14 North_German @ 13.128700
15 Romanian @ 13.579771
16 Scottish @ 13.680044
17 Bulgarian @ 14.030741
18 Norwegian @ 14.288017
19 Montenegrin @ 15.629291
20 Swedish @ 16.071339


Full Eurogenes K15
Population
North_Sea 18.30 Pct
Atlantic 8.57 Pct
Baltic 23.07 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.86 Pct
West_Med 11.35 Pct
West_Asian 9.27 Pct
East_Med 14.45 Pct
Red_Sea 3.94 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.20 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Hard to make out anything. I think it is possible he has Sephardic Jewish ancestry like Hrvoje wrote in that thread. It makes the only sense. He really does have high 'Arabian'. Really strange case.

Does he have elevated Ashkenazi percentage on Eurogenes JTest? I however don't know what Sephardic Jews score on that one.

[Insuperable]

obviously he has like 1 turk ancestor from 400 years ago or something

One Turkish ancestor that far wouldn't show in his results. His father on gedmatch scores very low or none Far Asian, but high Arabian which is where the fuss is.

[marco]

One Turkish ancestor that far wouldn't show in his results. His father on gedmatch scores very low or none Far Asian, but high Arabian which is where the fuss is.

You have G25 I can run a model for you

[Insuperable]

You have G25 I can run a model for you

Ask Ljubic.

[Seya]

i don't get it. where is the middle easten ancestry?

[Adamm]

i don't get it. where is the middle easten ancestry?

Red_Sea

He also has high Arabian + A bit North_African on K36.