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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    Tunisian Jews are the closest NAs to Europe, especially Southern Europe.
    Tunisian Jewish aren't NA's. Atleast genetically. They are very distinct from the NA cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    Makes sense, I think Moroccans and Algerians are the most Beber now. However, recently I saw a video of an Algerian scoring a decent amount of non-NA blood: 22% more and less. Tunisians are a very lovely bunch. They were a Phoenician colony and also have big European communities.

    The Algerian guy...



    Does he look typical Algerian? I don't know, he could pass in Southern Europe and the Levant to be honest. Moroccans strike me as darker and with more curly hair hence why I though Algerians looked differently and had more European/Levantine admixture.
    Yes he's typical and moroccans aren't darker :

    I'm moroccan and I don't fit your moroccan stereotype


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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I've never seen a tunisian gedmatch kit. Do they shift really towards Europe compared to other NAs ? I believe that there are few samples from this area unfortunately.
    No but a lot of them tend to be more ME shifted unfortunately i didn't found any tunisian kit for you (but i have plenty of ftdna results )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    Tunisian Jewish aren't NA's. Atleast genetically. They are very distinct from the NA cluster.
    I found one kit actually from bizerte (north tunisia) : ZK7611003

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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    What about Libyans? Also are Egyptians more related to Levantines? 23AndMe class them together.

    I think Moroccans and Algerians might be the ones who remain the truest to their Berber roots? Can someone please shed some light on the matter.

    Also did many Saudis settle North Africa at the time they seized power.
    these were the libyan results i could find




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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    No but a lot of them tend to be more ME shifted unfortunately i didn't found any tunisian kit for you (but i have plenty of ftdna results )
    I think that tunisian euro influenced can be found in urban areas, or touristic balnear "stations". It's also possible that the south of Tunisia received Italian input as it was very close to Tripoli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I think that tunisian euro influenced can be found in urban areas, or touristic balnear "stations". It's also possible that the south of Tunisia received Italian input as it was very close to Tripoli.
    That's true but overall tunisians tend to score more italian than other maghrebis which is quite logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samnium View Post
    I think that tunisian euro influenced can be found in urban areas, or touristic balnear "stations". It's also possible that the south of Tunisia received Italian input as it was very close to Tripoli.
    moroccans score the most iberian.
    tunisian score the italian.
    and egyptians score the most greek


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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    Makes sense, I think Moroccans and Algerians are the most Beber now. However, recently I saw a video of an Algerian scoring a decent amount of non-NA blood: 22% more and less. Tunisians are a very lovely bunch. They were a Phoenician colony and also have big European communities.

    The Algerian guy...



    Does he look typical Algerian? I don't know, he could pass in Southern Europe and the Levant to be honest. Moroccans strike me as darker and with more curly hair hence why I though Algerians looked differently and had more European/Levantine admixture.
    Not all Moroccans are curly .

    I think my hair is straight and a little bit wavy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    What about Libyans? Also are Egyptians more related to Levantines? 23AndMe class them together.

    I think Moroccans and Algerians might be the ones who remain the truest to their Berber roots? Can someone please shed some light on the matter.

    Also did many Saudis settle North Africa at the time they seized power.


    (im only responding tho the underlined question i leave the others question the somebody else that will respond tho you)


    the "Saudis" (you mean the Ummayads caliphate and the Arabs right ?) after the great mostly kharidjite/ibadi Berbers revolt (where the basic of Maghreb independent Islamic history start) did not really originally impact the region (although a very minority may have like the Idrisid dynasty of morocco in early medieval maghreb history).

    however according tho historian (and some later who visited the region) the hilalians (Hidjaz Najd region in Arabia) and maqil (somewhere unknown in Yemen) where recorded tho live in the Maghreb after there semi-failed migrating invasion and defeat by the Almohads Berbers others later visitors/historians (of the mostly renaissance or later period all tho the colonial time of Africa) recorded the presence of Arabs/Arabs tribes in the region (regardless of whatsoever these Arabs come from although some have mentioned they come from the 11century hilalians maqil invasion) now whatsoever these Arabs left any dna in the Maghreb region is unknown tho me (i don't really know when it's come tho genetics thing/don't know)
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