Were the hellenics, ancient greeks, Indians and Egyptians of nordic type

[TheOldNorth]

How do you know all the gods were "blond" and "blue eyes"?. And in any case, Greece is in Europe, not in china, blonde people exist there, there is nothing alien to them. You cannot trust the word of others, especially when they arent historians or academics. Read the fonts by your self.
For example, the internet is filled with people saying that the spanish found a "white tribe" in Peru, in the 1500s, I read the chronicles myself, and the real texts said something completely different.

and yet to the romans those with blonde or red hair where considered barbaric until their emperor had it, and it would be odd that in a culture, that if like the modern day was almost completely dark of hair and eyes, and tan of skin, that their gods would all be practically nordic looking in comparison...
Athena is known to be grey eyed, Apollo, and Achilles blonde haired xanthos is the word, yellow is its meaning.
I don't think its a coincidence that Alexander the great was noted as blonde of hair, its because of his royal heritage... The Spartans clearly had a caste culture, with Dorian warrior men at the top, and Ionian helots at the bottom, similar to early India, or the early Spanish colonial world. We shouldn't take the descriptions and evidence laid out before us by our ancestors as fantasy, or else risk tossing out the baby with the bath water.
If its true that there is a little truth in every story, then there must be more then a little in a history, even if written by the 'unscientific' ancients...

[TheOldNorth]

Exactly, Britain,France, Germany and Italy each contributed more to the arts and sciences than Denmark, Norway and Sweden combined. I would include Lowland Scots with the English as British, though. Nordicism is retarded.

nordicism is retarded, I'm not claiming the Dorians where literal Scandinavians but rather more north/central European in their DNA, then where the Ionians. Indo-europeanism however... may be a little less retarded

[TheOldNorth]

No way, rofl. The Dorian Greeks were not Nordic.

never said they where, you heard "blue eyes, and blonde hair" and assumed I was saying they where practically Scandinavians! Not at all, I mean they where more Indo-european, like Celts, like Slavs, and like Scythians

[TheOldNorth]

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[Synapsid]

obviously I can't read fn ancient Greek or Latin, but it doesn't take an obscure reference by some 'unknown author' to know that many of the Greek gods where described as exceedingly fair of skin hair, and eyes, and so to where classical heroes such as Achilles and Heracles described in such manners, and it wouldn't make sense for them to be described that way unless those traits where associated with a higher caste, or nobility, and we know that greek as a language didn't originate in Greece, like all other indo-european languages it originated which the fairly light skinned and haired Yamnaya, who mixed with the dark skinned and light eyes WHG and the medium skinned, and dark eyed EEF

We cannot say WHG was 'Dark' skinned. They just lacked the alleles usually associated with light skin pigmentation in Europe. They carried a variant of the IRF4 gene, which is associated with light skin and freckles in British Isle populations, esp. the Irish. The most WHG farmer population was the globular amphora culture and the associated Funnelbeaker culture in Northern Germany, Denmark and Scania /Sweden, and they were mostly positive for all genes associated with light skin, light hair and blue eyes. Compare that to more Anatolian_N heavy EEF like the older LBK who were positive for S. European type light skin but where pred. dark eyed. Of all the EEF populations that had existed in Northern Europe, the Steppe population only absorbed the Globular Amphora EEF (around 30%) and replaced all other EEF populations (in Britain, in S.Germany, in Ireland, in N. France etc). So all Britons have Globular Amphora, as do Swedes, as do Germans and most non-Gascon/Basque Frenchmen. Do you think WHG was dark as they portray in the Media? I think not. What do you think?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

and yet to the romans those with blonde or red hair where considered barbaric until their emperor had it, and it would be odd that in a culture, that if like the modern day was almost completely dark of hair and eyes, and tan of skin, that their gods would all be practically nordic looking in comparison...
Athena is known to be grey eyed, Apollo, and Achilles blonde haired xanthos is the word, yellow is its meaning.
I don't think its a coincidence that Alexander the great was noted as blonde of hair, its because of his royal heritage... The Spartans clearly had a caste culture, with Dorian warrior men at the top, and Ionian helots at the bottom, similar to early India, or the early Spanish colonial world. We shouldn't take the descriptions and evidence laid out before us by our ancestors as fantasy, or else risk tossing out the baby with the bath water.
If its true that there is a little truth in every story, then there must be more then a little in a history, even if written by the 'unscientific' ancients...

Almost 20% of Italy have light brown or blond hair, that's like 1 in 5 people, with greeks is at least 10% of the population,even the ones that lives in the islands, 1 in 10 people. Thats a very visible minority.
They werent germans they are just native people:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ns-here/page13

Cant you see the diference betewn this



and this



and this




Not even the same sub race.

[TheOldNorth]

Almost 20% of Italy have light brown or blond hair, that's like 1 in 5 people, with greeks is at least 10% of the population,even the ones that lives in the islands.
They werent germans they are just native people:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ns-here/page13

clearly you didn't read my other post because I clearly stated that I wan't saying they where Scandinavian or even Germanic, but rather that they where more typically central/northern European then they are now, because between those times, they absorbed the local EEF and WHG populations. Modern greeks are 1/10th blonde because the ruling minority of the past where more fair of features then their subjects, which is reflected religiously by the fact that the greek gods are more northern looking then the standard greek

[TheOldNorth]

We cannot say WHG was 'Dark' skinned. They just lacked the alleles usually associated with light skin pigmentation in Europe. They carried a variant of the IRF4 gene, which is associated with light skin and freckles in British Isle populations, esp. the Irish. The most WHG farmer population was the globular amphora culture and the associated Funnelbeaker culture in Northern Germany, Denmark and Scania /Sweden, and they were mostly positive for all genes associated with light skin, light hair and blue eyes. Compare that to more Anatolian_N heavy EEF like the older LBK who were positive for S. European type light skin but where pred. dark eyed. Of all the EEF populations that had existed in Northern Europe, the Steppe population only absorbed the Globular Amphora EEF (around 30%) and replaced all other EEF populations (in Britain, in S.Germany, in Ireland, in N. France etc). So all Britons have Globular Amphora, as do Swedes, as do Germans and most non-Gascon/Basque Frenchmen. Do you think WHG was dark as they portray in the Media? I think not. What do you think?

I think they where dark but not nearly as much as shown in the media, I think those are by far exaggerations fueled by political agenda

[Synapsid]

I think they where dark but not nearly as much as shown in the media, I think those are by far exaggerations fueled by political agenda

So could explain why all modern populations with the highest amount of WHG (Scandos, Esti, Baltics, Finns etc) are among the lightest populations on the planet?

[Red Pill]

A population isn't uniform genetically and phenotypically

Proof??... Phenotypically (and regarding the genes that determine the phenotype) it can be very homogeneous. Scandinavians, NE Asians and many SSA populations are very homogeneous - you just looks at pictures of crowds in those countries (minus new immigrants of course). it's the cultural marxist propaganda that says that all races are mixed etc.