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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Global25 won't be as popular and accessible as Gedmatch. GM is free and everyone can upload while G25 costs money and is more difficult to use/interpret. Besides, it has no genealogical value.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_HG 46.15
    2 Anatolian_NF 24.47
    3 Caucasus_HG 21.09
    4 Siberian 2.17
    5 Near_East 2.1
    6 Amerindian 2.03
    7 Sub-Saharan 1.09
    8 Oceanian 0.9

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 4.18
    2 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 6.09
    3 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 6.09
    4 Potapovka_I0419 6.37
    5 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 7.52
    6 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 7.71
    7 Srubnaya_I0232 8.11
    8 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 8.71
    9 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 9.03
    10 Unetice_EBA_I0117 9.21
    11 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 9.3
    12 Srubnaya_I0430 9.82
    13 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 10.53
    14 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 10.91
    15 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 11.12
    16 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 11.13
    17 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 11.72
    18 Vatya_SG_RISE479 18.31
    19 Hungary_BA_I1502 19.62
    20 Scythian_IA_I0247 21.24

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 57.3% Vatya_SG_RISE479 + 42.7% Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 2.22
    2 79.5% Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + 20.5% Samara_HG_I0124 @ 2.38
    3 55.6% Hungary_BA_I1502 + 44.4% Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 2.47
    4 77.4% Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 + 22.6% Samara_Eneolithic_I0433 @ 2.82
    5 54.7% Vatya_SG_RISE479 + 45.3% Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 @ 3.08
    6 65.4% Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 + 34.6% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 @ 3.13
    7 71.9% Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 + 28.1% Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 @ 3.15
    8 53% Hungary_BA_I1502 + 47% Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 @ 3.21
    9 82.4% Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 + 17.6% Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 3.22
    10 82.6% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 + 17.4% Afanasievo_SG_RISE511 @ 3.3
    11 84.7% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 + 15.3% Samara_Eneolithic_I0433 @ 3.34
    12 67.2% Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 + 32.8% Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 @ 3.37
    13 84.7% Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 + 15.3% Samara_Eneolithic_I0433 @ 3.38
    14 76.9% BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + 23.1% Bichon @ 3.59
    15 89.7% Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 + 10.3% Vatya_SG_RISE479 @ 3.63
    16 57.4% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 + 42.6% Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 @ 3.65
    17 62.9% BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 + 37.1% Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 @ 3.67
    18 90.9% Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 + 9.1% Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 3.7
    19 77% BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 + 23% Hungary_HG_I1507 @ 3.73
    20 76.9% Unetice_EBA_I0117 + 23.1% Samara_Eneolithic_I0433 @ 3.77
    Thanks. He is definetly very high steppe. What is his y-dna and mtdna?

    I agree that g25 coordinates should be better for free but they are on the otherside not that expensive to buy. Most gedmatch calcs are terrible when used for ancient pops or modelling ancient ancestry in modern pops. Basically all are not useable for ancient pops. For modern pops they are definetly useful to some extent because they are good in capturing drifted components but g25 is much more flexible and you can create an endless number of calcs and analyzes with it. Gedmatch is not getting any new calcs in the last time and there are big privacy issuess there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukasz View Post
    It is only one when you get Hungarian on first place I guess?
    No i think on gedmatch i get it on couple other calculators . but i tend to get it more consistantly in top 3 to 5 oracle positions of gedmatch calculators.

    In the Eurogenes i often get Austrian,East German in top position ... in the Vahudo K13 I get Austrian in 1st position but when i remove Austrian i get Hungarian.
    Overall I get Hungarian or central Euro populations in closer oracle positions than i get British populations ...kind of interesting considering heritage wise im half Hungarian half British.
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    Updated k15 for my mother:

    Target: Mother
    Distance: 2.8817% / 2.88173441 | ADC: 0.5x
    61.6 German_Bavarian
    24.8 East_German
    13.6 North_German


    Target: Mother
    Distance: 2.1948% / 2.19476395 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.2 German_Bavarian
    23.2 Czech
    12.8 North_German
    9.0 Irish
    2.0 French_Basque
    0.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Updated k15 for my mother:

    Target: Mother
    Distance: 2.8817% / 2.88173441 | ADC: 0.5x
    61.6 German_Bavarian
    24.8 East_German
    13.6 North_German


    Target: Mother
    Distance: 2.1948% / 2.19476395 | ADC: 0.25x
    52.2 German_Bavarian
    23.2 Czech
    12.8 North_German
    9.0 Irish
    2.0 French_Basque
    0.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    For comparison, my mother:

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 1.2401% / 1.24010338 | ADC: 0.5x
    52.0 South_Dutch
    37.2 North_German
    6.8 Belgium
    4.0 West_German

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 0.7923% / 0.79230351 | ADC: 0.25x
    29.8 Belgium
    27.4 North_German
    21.8 South_Dutch
    11.6 East_German
    8.4 Southwest_English
    1.0 West_German

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    More for my mom:

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 1.5142% / 1.51424695 | ADC: 1x
    65.4 South_Dutch
    32.2 North_German
    2.4 Belgium

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 2.6699% / 2.66985148 | ADC: 2x
    90.2 South_Dutch
    9.8 North_German

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    Here is a targeted run on my mother, using only German and British populations:

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 0.6744% / 0.67435308
    28.4 German_Bavarian
    28.2 Southwest_English
    27.4 North_German
    9.0 East_German
    7.0 West_German

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 0.7244% / 0.72441991 | ADC: 0.25x
    31.8 German_Bavarian
    31.2 North_German
    24.8 Southwest_English
    6.6 West_German
    5.6 East_German

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 1.0116% / 1.01162704 | ADC: 0.5x
    38.4 North_German
    38.0 German_Bavarian
    18.8 Southwest_English
    4.8 West_German

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 1.3266% / 1.32661884 | ADC: 1x
    45.6 North_German
    41.4 German_Bavarian
    13.0 Southwest_English

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 2.0914% / 2.09136843 | ADC: 2x
    61.6 North_German
    38.4 German_Bavarian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    For comparison, my mother:

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 1.2401% / 1.24010338 | ADC: 0.5x
    52.0 South_Dutch
    37.2 North_German
    6.8 Belgium
    4.0 West_German

    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 0.7923% / 0.79230351 | ADC: 0.25x
    29.8 Belgium
    27.4 North_German
    21.8 South_Dutch
    11.6 East_German
    8.4 Southwest_English
    1.0 West_German
    Very West German results

    Also I wonder if the French_Basque shows up for my mother just because, or if it's actual ancestry. We know one of her great-great grandpas was from the Normandy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Very West German results

    Also I wonder if the French_Basque shows up for my mother just because, or if it's actual ancestry. We know one of her great-great grandpas was from the Normandy.
    That could very well be real ancestry it is picking up for your mom. The calculator wants to pick Southwest England for my mom, and that is where we think her great-grandmother was from.

    I can't seem to get the calc to favor West German for her, although that is the bulk of her ancestry on paper.

    Only the German groups were used for this run:
    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 1.6216% / 1.62164421 | ADC: 0.25x
    48.4 North_German
    37.2 German_Bavarian
    14.4 West_German

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    That could be. The calculator wants to pick Southwest England for my mom, and that is where we think here great-grandmother was from.

    I can't seem to get the calc to favor West German for her, although that is the bulk of her ancestry on paper.

    Only the German groups were used for this run:
    Target: Mr.G-mom
    Distance: 1.6216% / 1.62164421 | ADC: 0.25x
    48.4 North_German
    37.2 German_Bavarian
    14.4 West_German
    Did the closest pop stayed South_Dutch on Vahaduo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Did the closest pop stayed South_Dutch on Vahaduo?
    Here with the updated spreadsheet:

    Distance to: Mr.G-mom
    3.29492033 South_Dutch
    3.85253164 Belgium
    4.50012222 North_German
    4.86393873 German_Bavarian
    5.60989305 Southwest_English
    5.98121225 Southeast_English
    6.04818981 Dutch
    6.36309673 England
    6.38958528 West_German
    7.03563075 North_Dutch
    7.46325666 Irish
    8.05813254 Scotland
    8.28306103 West_Scottish
    9.03857290 French
    9.11127872 Austria-Burgenland
    9.41288479 Danish
    9.89482693 Orcadian
    10.16890358 Norway
    10.20055391 Swedish
    10.28663210 East_German
    10.46094164 Norwegian
    10.51975285 Austria-Tyrol
    10.63730229 North_Swedish
    12.38331135 West_Norwegian
    13.11774752 North_Swedish

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