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This woman will likely have loads of Sorb ancestry farther back and she has also very Slavic-like genetics. I just opposed mingeling knowledge and assumptions already in the labeling (which then hides to users what is what).
What you tell is admittedly intriguing. But before drawing final conclusions: Does this apply when modelling other Serbs too?
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60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2
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I'm curious and do not oppose whatever find.
Just this thought: If such a connection is not just true, but also is visible in such a way, wouldn't that presuppose that White Serbs have something that distinguish them from neighboring Slavic tribes?
It's not impossible. But in that case it should be something specific, not harbored in other Slavic tribes. And after we model in K13, that specificity should also express in K13 values.
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Something doesn't add up with the Bosniak national average - 3/4 regional averages have NA >25, one even >27 while national has <25? Which Canton's are included for each regional average?
These regional averages give Bosniak,25.86,32.47,15.50,8.66,13.45,1.53,0.54,0.3 9,0.34,0.69,0.38,0.16,0.05
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Dude stop your Nazi-like unsubstantiated slanders, I presented all the facts I knew about this sample to Davidski.
I also sent to Davidski what Sven had told me (exact quote).
And I even asked David to double-check this sample with his methods of genetic analyses, to confirm "Sorbianness".
Davidski checked IBD sharing between this sample and academic Sorbs.
But he said these academic Sorbs cannot be added to G25.
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Because it isn't calculated from these new averages, it's the old academic average, which are regionally mixed Bosniaks from Sarajevo.
Your calculation shows it's pretty close to the truth, with some minor variations. But Bosniak Sandzak should also be added, and they should be weighed by population size.
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But what's the point of naming and having it as Bosniak if Bosniak isn't calculated using regional averages? Currently, we have two-three Bosniak national averages. It is confusing. Of course, the national average should be weighted by regional population size. Hence we need to know which Canton samples are included in each regional average.
Bosniak Sandzak shouldn't be added to the Bosniak average, they aren't very related to the Bosniaks from BiH. Speak a different dialect and with different genetics actually are Serbianized-Bosniakized Albanians. We need a clear Bosniak average for BiH like in scientific papers.
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19.2 Celtic-like
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