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    Is anyone planning to make average for different Arabian countries or regions? It would be interesting to see how different they actually are from Levantines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    Is anyone planning to make average for different Arabian countries or regions? It would be interesting to see how different they actually are from Levantines.
    Most of the Arabian peninsula is relatively homogenous, especially inner Bedouins and whatnot. From what I have seen the distinction comes from historically city-bound individuals especially in the Gulf and Yemen where we see African, South Asian or Iranian ancestry
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    Why only 4 of Krakauer Berg samples are added to Vahaduo?:

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    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA001,0.129758,0.125926,0.075424,0.072029,0.046778,0.026774,0.011986,0.010384,-0.001636,-0.021322,-0.003085,-0.006294,0.008028,0.021194,-0.013843,0.013789,0.019036,-0.005701,0.00352,0.005378,0.004991,-0.008408,0.000986,-0.006145,0.001796
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA002,0.126344,0.129988,0.067127,0.059109,0.03693,0.019243,0.007755,0.010615,0.001227,-0.023508,-0.001949,-0.008842,0.012339,0.014313,0.000136,0.009149,0.007823,-0.007728,0.002263,0.006128,-0.003369,-0.005935,0.00419,-0.002048,-0.008502
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA003,0.127482,0.121864,0.07995,0.072675,0.052317,0.013108,0.008695,0.012461,0.004704,-0.023144,-0.00341,-0.005695,0.016204,0.007019,-0.005836,0.021745,0.020861,-0.001267,0.00176,0.002501,-0.008984,-0.005193,0.005546,0.00976,0.005748
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA004,0.12862,0.131003,0.082967,0.075259,0.048624,0.025937,0.00752,0.011999,0.002863,-0.019135,0.002111,-0.008692,0.020218,0.021607,-0.0095,0.009546,0.007953,-0.0019,0.005531,0.008504,-0.011355,0.005688,0.005916,-0.01699,-0.004191
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA005,0.120652,0.137096,0.071276,0.071706,0.049548,0.01004,0.01081,0.014538,-0.009408,-0.018041,-0.00341,-0.001499,0.003419,0.018717,0.00285,-0.004773,0.003129,-0.002154,0.005154,0.004502,-0.009858,-0.004946,0.008381,-0.007591,0.001796
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA006,0.130897,0.125926,0.062979,0.063308,0.040623,0.019801,0.00329,0.013846,0.001227,-0.020046,-0.00065,-0.01079,0.016353,0.026148,-0.015065,-0.01538,-0.002738,-0.003547,0.005405,-0.007379,0.000624,0.003462,0.00493,-0.006627,-0.001078
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA007,0.129758,0.133034,0.082967,0.070737,0.049548,0.026216,0.005405,0.011769,-0.002659,-0.036447,0.003735,-0.01124,0.018285,0.023946,-0.009365,-0.014452,-0.002738,0.001014,-0.001131,0.010755,0.000374,0.001237,-0.001972,-0.009158,0.012214
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA008,0.132035,0.135065,0.076555,0.06137,0.043085,0.025937,0.00564,0.007384,0.002045,-0.02041,-0.010555,-0.005995,0.014569,0.004129,-0.012758,0.001856,0.022035,-0.000633,0.005531,0.002501,-0.00025,-0.002349,-0.001849,-0.006748,0.001078
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA010,0.129758,0.123895,0.065996,0.065246,0.042777,0.025937,0.007755,0.009461,-0.005113,-0.018588,-0.002273,-0.009442,0.013528,0.021469,-0.00665,-0.012331,-0.009648,-0.007221,0.006662,-0.007504,-0.000499,0.000866,0.007518,-0.003253,-0.000958
    DEU_Krakauer_Berg_MA:KRA011,0.125205,0.129988,0.078818,0.072675,0.047701,0.027889,0.013161,0.006692,0.005522,-0.020593,-0.00065,-0.009292,0.018583,0.027249,-0.011672,-0.010342,-0.006389,0.00266,0.008045,0.002876,-0.011729,-0.008037,0.007272,-0.003494,0.003952

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    Could you update Polish k13:

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    Poland_Lemko,27.74,37.63,14.89,7.34,9.48,0.24,0.42,0.58,0.56,0.60,0.52,0.00,0.00
    Polish_Greater Poland,31.45,43.92,10.26,5.30,5.52,0.80,0.87,0.09,0.23,0.65,0.48,0.37,0.06
    Polish_Kielce,29.3,45.17,10.56,5.45,5.36,0.76,1.36,0.15,0.37,0.81,0.4,0.28,0.03
    Polish_Kujawy,31.83,45.41,9.95,4.66,3.33,1.47,1.02,0.20,0.79,0.93,0.00,0.41,0.00
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    Polish_Mazovia,28.33,46.20,10.70,5.60,5.04,0.54,1.20,0.15,0.69,0.66,0.50,0.18,0.20
    Polish_North_Wielkopolska,31.98,43.23,10.06,5.79,5.57,0.87,0.73,0.17,0.19,1.00,0.03,0.35,0.03
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    Polish_Southeast,28.71,42.67,11.10,6.04,7.21,1.18,0.44,0.11,1.70,0.23,0.12,0.35,0.13
    Polish_Staropolska,29.08,46.18,10.22,4.40,6.59,0.77,0.73,0.00,0.45,0.75,0.37,0.46,0.00
    Polish_WarmiaMasuria,32.51,44.26,10.88,4.19,3.27,0.95,1.21,0.16,1.06,0.51,0.33,0.29,0.39

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    Is anyone planning to make average for different Arabian countries or regions? It would be interesting to see how different they actually are from Levantines.
    I think only Yemen is overwhelmingly local whereas the oil producing states are up to 80% non-citizen. But Yemen will be extremely far from the Levant, 'cause it's heavily black.
    In general Dodecad Vahaduo has a lot more West Asian/Middle Eastern pops than K13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    I think only Yemen is overwhelmingly local whereas the oil producing states are up to 80% non-citizen. But Yemen will be extremely far from the Levant, 'cause it's heavily black.
    In general Dodecad Vahaduo has a lot more West Asian/Middle Eastern pops than K13.
    OK, thanks for the info.

    And while you're here I want to ask you about the Baltic (Lithuanian and Latvian) averages. On K13, all we have are those averages from the original spreadsheet. Is anyone working on adding new ones, perhaps with regions included?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonSense View Post
    OK, thanks for the info.

    And while you're here I want to ask you about the Baltic (Lithuanian and Latvian) averages. On K13, all we have are those averages from the original spreadsheet. Is anyone working on adding new ones, perhaps with regions included?
    The Latvian is not from the original, someone added it back when this Vahaduo thing began. I can't possibly do that myself, those are very small countries anyway, do we actually need 3-5 regional averages for each of them? I did LT and LV for Dodecad (15-20 samples each) and they're good enough IMO. That's my main calculator, K13 comes only second.

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    Lucas, I sent you this weeks ago and you haven't added it yet - an updated Dutch avg for D K12b:
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    Dutch,7.40,0.19,0.03,0.12,37.25,44.28,0.57,0.27,0.54,0.02,9.09,0.25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Lucas, please replace these averages. I updated /added these a while back but they got nuked when you replaced the spreadsheet with an older version.

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    Bashkir,0.0888769,-0.1176745,0.0640005,0.0304428,-0.0401099,-0.0040439,0.0087149,0.0110764,-0.0073629,-0.0195981,0.0027403,-0.0034532,0.0093099,-0.0203797,-0.0038962,-0.003486,-0.003955,-0.0009132,-0.0026606,-0.0026784,-0.0097225,0.0015869,-0.0018385,0.0015062,-0.0023102
    
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    And add these

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    Wow, Great work. Is this okay or need to modify??

    Average scaled
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    Punjabi_Christian_India,0.039269,-0.091906,-0.174230,0.122256,-0.070475,0.062610,-0.000235,0.009808,0.052767,0.033622,-0.005765,0.002473,0.001115,0.001101,-0.007668,-0.009282,-0.003520,-0.001457,-0.000880,-0.001313,0.006176,0.003091,0.002834,-0.002892,-0.004012
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    Punjabi_Muslim_India,0.064879,-0.013709,-0.117662,0.069122,-0.063550,0.044901,-0.001762,0.004615,0.008488,0.010661,-0.006252,0.004570,-0.004014,-0.001996,0.004886,0.005370,0.003716,0.002978,0.001131,-0.003690,-0.000124,-0.004142,0.003883,-0.001265,-0.000240
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    Punjabi_Christian_India,0.003450,-0.009050,-0.046200,0.037850,-0.022900,0.022450,-0.000100,0.004250,0.025800,0.018450,-0.003550,0.001650,0.000750,0.000800,-0.005650,-0.007000,-0.002700,-0.001150,-0.000700,-0.001050,0.004950,0.002500,0.002300,-0.002400,-0.003350
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