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    Quote Originally Posted by Salonikios View Post
    They best pass in Eurasia steppes. True Cuman Turks. Some of them pass well in Finland too.
    Steppe stronk!!

    I have Tatar ancestry too(Crimean)

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    It's the same as Volga Tatars in general. They look whiter than Southern Europeans, and they pass more easily as Finns than people from the Balkans do, but I'm not sure about the question of this thread.

    This girl looks super-Finnish though:



    I didn't know that Finnish Tatars came from the area of Nizhny Novgorod Oblast (west of Chuvashia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Tatars#History):

    The ancestors of the present-day Tatars came to Finland from the 1870s to the mid-1920s from a group of some 20 villages in the Sergachsky District on the Volga River, to the southeast of Nizhny Novgorod. Most of them had been farmers but they settled in Finland as merchants trading in furs and textiles and chose initially to reside in Helsinki and its surrounding area. Tatars living in the city of Vyborg on the Karelian Isthmus resettled in Tampere and Helsinki when the area was ceded to the Soviet Union in the Moscow Peace Treaty of 1940. Most Finnish Tatars continue to live in Helsinki and its surroundings.[4]

    Finnish Tatars are mostly Mishar Tatars, who are a subgroup of Volga Tatars. There are theories that Mishar Tatars were originally Uralic (either Meschera, Moksha, or Magyar) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mishar_Tatars:

    The origin of the Mishar Tatars remains a point of controversy.[4] Some scientists of the 19th and 20th c., based on equivalency of the Turkic ethnonym Madjar (variants: Majgar, Mojar, Mishar, Mochar) with the Hungarian self-name Magyar, associated them with Hungarian speaking Magyars and came to a conclusion that Turkic-speaking Mishars were formed by a Turkization of those Hungarians who remained in the region after their main part left to the West in the 8th c.[5]

    Some contemporary researchers assume that they are descendants of Cuman-Kipchak tribes who mixed with the Burtas in the Middle Oka River area and Meschiora. The origin of Mishar Tatars of Mishar Yurt are Meshchera (Meshcherian), a Mordvinic languages-speaking Moksha Mordvins of Mukhsha Ulus who came under Tatar influence and adopted the language and the Sunni Muslim religion.[6]

    Tatars are geographically Northern European, because Tatarstan is at approximately the same latitude as Denmark, and Kazan (the capital of Tatarstan) is further north than Copenhagen. Tatars are also genetically mostly Northern European, as you can see from the combined proportion of the dark blue (Northern European) and purple (Northeast European and West Siberian) components below (https://journals.plos.org/plosgeneti...l.pgen.1005068):


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    Screenshots of people featured in the documentary (part 1):


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    Screenshots of people featured in the documentary (part 2):


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    They also often have this Alpinid-like blend in everywhere - look, though kinda differently. That being said, the second from the bottom in the last post looks like the woman from "Marion's kitchen" on YouTube, who is half Thai.

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    Thanks people

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    Cover photo of a Finnish Tatar magazine (http://tatar.fi/en/mh-2/):



    Here's a Finnish Tatar sports club from the same magazine. Particularly the man in the middle in the front row couldn't pass as Finnish, but some of the others have a very Finnish-like sub-Uralid look.



    Meral Bedretdin (Finnish Tatar basketball player):



    Nail Bedretdin (Finnish Tatar football player):



    Chuvashes are the whitest Turkic people, but Tatars are the whitest Muslim people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ymyyakhtakh View Post
    Cover photo of a Finnish Tatar magazine (http://tatar.fi/en/mh-2/):



    Here's a Finnish Tatar sports club from the same magazine. Particularly the man in the middle in the front row couldn't pass as Finnish, but some of the others have a very Finnish-like sub-Uralid look.



    Meral Bedretdin (Finnish Tatar basketball player):



    Nail Bedretdin (Finnish Tatar football player):



    Chuvashes are the whitest Turkic people, but Tatars are the whitest Muslim people.
    Thanks my friend

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    Finland, but they still look different overall.

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