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Thread: (EU citizens only - minus UK) A future British rejoining of the EU ? Yes or no ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Have you never wondered who funds those Brexit organisations ? Wilders and Farage all have their contacts in America. Trump is very much for a break-up of the EU and Soros is fiercely anti-Euro. There is a lot wrong with the present day EU but they are not against it out of the kindness of their hearts - they are for it for a different reason: asset stripping. If Europe is weak and divided, it cannot stop being infiltrated, carved up and stripped. The Americans would love to see the Euro and the EU gone: they could have been competitors for their own power and for the petro-Dollar. So, personally, I think that Britain will soon be brought back to the 1980s - or become like Argentina.
    Sure, US, Russia, China, India - basically none of the competitor large federations like the EU.

    But only Russia is overtly against the EU. For the rest, it's private actors (with large financial interests), not the state, that are chipping on the edges of EU power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Sure, US, Russia, China, India - basically none of the competitor large federations like the EU.

    But only Russia is overtly against the EU. For the rest, it's private actors (with large financial interests), not the state, that are chipping on the edges of EU power.
    So is America and Trump has made that quite clear. Why do you think the American media has been slagging off Europe for the last 15 years ? That's when the Euro started to become more powerful than the U.S dollar (because of Iraq). Both Libya and Iraq wanted to sell their oil.. for euro's. And then they got invaded. Here are Lily's heroes: see who funds them. And Europe has considered/is considering paying the Iranians in euro's as well.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    So is America and Trump has made that quite clear. Why do you think the American media has been slagging off Europe for the last 15 years ? That's when the Euro started to become more powerful than the U.S dollar (because of Iraq). Both Libya and Iraq wanted to sell their oil.. for euro's. And then they got invaded. Here are Lily's heroes: see who funds them. And Europe has considered/is considering paying the Iranians in euro's as well.
    Trump definitely wants the EU gone. But I'm not sure American state institutions are actively working against the EU.

    I'm also skeptical about the Euro. A common currency requires a common fiscal policy, which is not in place. This has wrecked the Southern European economies.
    Ultimately a common currency is necessary in the EU, but the current implementation is lacking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Back then I didn't know how this game worked either. You should look up who funds Farage and where Wilders gets his money from.
    Why should it matter who funds them? All politicians need to get their funding from somewhere, otherwise they can't function as politicians to give public speeches and fund political campaigns, etc. The main thing is that they stand-up and defend us against Islamisation, etc.

    Mr. Wilders has to live in a safe house with a panic room, requires a team of security officers to constantly guard him, he has to wear a bulletproof vest at all times, and has to be transported to and from his office in Den Haag in special security vans. He can only meet his Hungarian diplomat wife (below with Mr. Wilders) once a week due to security concerns.

    He's been prosecuted in the Dutch court over his freedom of speech, banned from entering the UK in the past, etc.

    The establishment wants to silence him... like they jailed Tommy Robinson for exposing mass Islamic rapists of English girls outside of a UK court (and today yet another 16 muslims (including a muslim police officer) have been charged in the U.K. for drugging, raping, and sending death threats to English children)... and the Supreme Court threatened Boris with jail... and now the U.S. is seeking to prosecute Trump for impeachment. So we can see that the establishment is against them.

    Only yesterday Mr. Wilders sadly received more death threats from muslims on Twitter.

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    Wilders is also being paid by Israel. He doesn't get much Dutch money and you can't become a member of the PVV. This is why the Dutch security services consider him a threat to democracy. Not because of his ideas (no one has yet tried to silence Baudet) And not just the Dutch consider him dangerous - the Danes actually had their security services check him out as well. How patriotic would you consider a man where you need to look hard for a Dutch flag in his office (and you wouln't find it anywhere: he flies the Israeli flag), and is paid by Israel and America to do damage here ? How patriotic is a man such as Farage with his financial career who gets all his money from America as well and who just wants one thing: to break up the EU.... because it would be easier for America to divide us.

    I wouldn't call them patriots. I would call them traitors. Traitors to their own country as they seek to weaken that country and place it at the disposal of those who pay their wages.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    Why should it matter who funds them? All politicians need to get their funding from somewhere, otherwise they can't function as politicians. The main thing is that they stand-up and defend us against Islamisation, etc.
    It matters a great deal. Those who pay the piper, will call the tune !



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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    Why should it matter who funds them? They need to get their funding from somewhere - but the main thing is that they stand-up and defend us against Islamisation, etc.
    The threat of Islamization comes from inside UK, more than the EU. Half of the EU doesn't want anything to do with the Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Trump definitely wants the EU gone. But I'm not sure American state institutions are actively working against the EU.

    I'm also skeptical about the Euro. A common currency requires a common fiscal policy, which is not in place. This has wrecked the Southern European economies.
    Ultimately a common currency is necessary in the EU, but the current implementation is lacking.
    There is a lot wrong with the implementation, yes. But it should tell you something about its stability when it has actually proven to be more stable than the U.S dollar (you can look that up). And, yes, American state institutions are doing the same thing what they have always done: destabilisation of competitors.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    The threat of Islamization comes from inside UK, more than the EU. Half of the EU doesn't want anything to do with the Islam.
    Precisely. And let us not forget that the funding comes from Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar. American allies. Also remember who funded Bin Laden and his ilk back in Afghanistan back in the 1980s and 90s ? Our good friend, The Great Satan on the other side of the Atlantic (with the help of the ISI)



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    Funny how those same Americans were also involved in this little thing called Operation Gladio: with weapons being given to all sorts of extremists in order to have a "stay behind network" in Western Europe in case the "Soviets would come". Those very same networks created absolute mayhem in Italy (the Years of Lead), the UK (yes, Northern Ireland - the IRA got a lot of American weapons), Belgium (the Brabant Killings), West Germany (a host of terror attacks during the 1970s and 1980s) and to the rise of the drug trade and organised crime in general. What we're having now - is just Gladio II.



    And before Lily says: "ah.. they would never do that !". Ask any Latin American here and they can sit you down for days about the shit Washington pulled in their countries. We are, like some countries in Latin America were, a dangerously independent competitor... so we've got to go.



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