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Thread: Are Georgians culturally closer to Armenians or to North Caucasians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakhchi View Post
    Abkhazians are technically South Caucasians geographically and yeah i believe North Ossetians would be closer to Armenians than Chechens. I can see Armenians, Georgians, Ossetians sitting down and drinking in a bar or having similar celebrations while Chechens and Dags are much more conservative. There are a lot of traditions that would seem weird to Georgians in the North Caucasus than in Armenia for example. I think a Georgian would feel "More at home" in Armenia than Chechnya.
    Ok. I understand. I ment folk culture, ethnomentality, people appearance. Armenians are quite far from us. I see them like other ethnic minorities in Georgia - like Greeks, Kurds, Yezidis, Russians etc.
    But I understand now what you mean. You are right in that way that I would not feel very comfortable in the ultra Muslim society + N Caucasian rules.

    There are some Chechens who like Georgian mountain archaic tribes like Khevsurs, Tushi, Mtiulians even Svans and like to prove that they are Georginized Nakhes though knowing Nakhes and their self-controlled style of life with rules and etc and noisy and ��-may-care neglect style of their life (Georgian mountain peoples) they are very typical Georgians. The only thing they are similar to Nakhes is that fact that in the high mountains Georgians also lived in tribal communities and had no Kingdoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    Ok. I understand. I ment folk culture, ethnomentality, people appearance. Armenians are quite far from us. I see them like other ethnic minorities in Georgia - like Greeks, Kurds, Yezidis, Russians etc.
    But I understand now what you mean. You are right in that way that I would not feel very comfortable in the ultra Muslim society + N Caucasian rules.

    There are some Chechens who like Georgian mountain archaic tribes like Khevsurs, Tushi, Mtiulians even Svans and like to prove that they are Georginized Nakhes though knowing Nakhes and their self-controlled style of life with rules and etc and noisy and ��-may-care neglect style of their life their are very typical Georgians. The only thing they are similar to Nakhes is that fact that in the high mountains Georgians also lived in tribal communities and had no Kingdoms.
    Zisserman who described Khevsurians tells us that there smoke everybody even children and women. 12 year old boy can call his father by his name standing in the center of the village surrounded by other men and say:"Give me tobacco." It was surprising even for Russian such behaviour. I say nothing about N Caucasians who have rules like wife has no right to call her husband by his name or talk to his parents.

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    Abkhazians are very close to Svanetians, Megrelians, and Imeretians. They're virtually of the same stock. Other subgroups of Georgians do have some genetic discrepancies to the aformentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    Ok. I understand. I ment folk culture, ethnomentality, people appearance. Armenians are quite far from us. I see them like other ethnic minorities in Georgia - like Greeks, Kurds, Yezidis, Russians etc.
    But I understand now what you mean. You are right in that way that I would not feel very comfortable in the ultra Muslim society + N Caucasian rules.

    There are some Chechens who like Georgian mountain archaic tribes like Khevsurs, Tushi, Mtiulians even Svans and like to prove that they are Georginized Nakhes though knowing Nakhes and their self-controlled style of life with rules and etc and noisy and ��-may-care neglect style of their life (Georgian mountain peoples) they are very typical Georgians. The only thing they are similar to Nakhes is that fact that in the high mountains Georgians also lived in tribal communities and had no Kingdoms.
    Yeah in many ways Georgians are closer to Nakhs like in appearance and we were once probably closer than today. Many Southern Chechen tribes like M'aisti, Melhi and Hildeha had closer connections to North Georgians and were very similar in culture and religion but that died down after we accepted Islam. Some Chechen tribes call areas in Northern Georgia their ancestral home like Chantio in Tusheti or Chartali and i think many north Georgians share genetically similarities to Chechens since even Kartlis Tskhoverba mentions that half of the Chechen population (presumabely in 200BC) settled from Tusheti all the way to Svaneti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Abkhazians are very close to Svanetians, Megrelians, and Imeretians. They're virtually of the same stock. Other subgroups of Georgians do have some genetic discrepancies to the aformentioned.
    Stop genetics in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    This thread is about culture. Not about genetics and anthropology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    Zisserman who described Khevsurians tells us that there smoke everybody even children and women. 12 year old boy can call his father by his name standing in the center of the village surrounded by other men and say:"Give me tobacco." It was surprising even for Russian such behaviour. I say nothing about N Caucasians who have rules like wife has no right to call her husband by his name or talk to his parents.
    Yeah i have heard of many weird traditions of Khevsurs :,) interesting subgroup of Georgians. Wife is allowed to talk to the husbands parents but is not allowed to mention the name of the parents, husband or family members (same as husband is not allowed to mention the name of the wife publicly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Stop genetics in this thread.
    I'm simply stating that Colchians probably do have cultural dissimilarity to Iberians on top of genetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    I'm simply stating that Colchians probably do have cultural dissimilarity to Iberians on top of genetics.
    It's indeed interesting if Colchians are different from other Georgians mentally and culturally and how exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nakhchi View Post
    Yeah i have heard of many weird traditions of Khevsurs :,) interesting subgroup of Georgians. Wife is allowed to talk to the husbands parents but is not allowed to mention the name of the parents, husband or family members (same as husband is not allowed to mention the name of the wife publicly).
    At first parents have "to open her tongue."
    Ps Khevsurs were just very wild. They had shamans, pagan priests and mythology much more free relations between genders.
    But were also very interesting in other ways. They have for example very philosophical poetry and their dialect itself is very poetic and powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    It's indeed interesting if Colchians are different from other Georgians mentally and culturally and how exactly.
    They are enoigh different. They are very clever, sly, active, like money but not like Armenians but in their way. Armenians like to work hard and like to keep their money while Colchians like to make money more creatively, criminal is not excluded. To keep them? Of course no. They are too haughty and respect aesthetics. They are very emotional and temperamental but less stubborns then Georgians. Good diplomats. Like each other and are very solid. (In difference of Georgians). Women played great role and often ruled their families.

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