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Thread: Are Georgians culturally closer to Armenians or to North Caucasians?

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    If you ask me, I'd say they are closer to Armenians. This isn't really an informed guess though, just a hunch.
    I don't know a whole lot about the Caucasus and it's people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorgo View Post
    To Armenians obviously, since both are Christians.
    Are you trying to insult the Hemshin Armenians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Are you trying to insult the Hemshin Armenians?
    Krasnodar Armenians as well as those specifically from Sochi and Abkhazia are largely descended from Hamshenahay and they are Christian. Muslim Hamshenahay were forcefully converted by the sword roughly 3 centuries or so ago.

    To answer, the OP's question, Georgians are far closer to Armenians than to North Caucasians not because of religion, but other cultural aspects such as certain overlap in cuisine, architecture, genetics, either side being a part of another throughout various points in history etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Krasnodar Armenians as well as those specifically from Sochi and Abkhazia are largely descended from Hamshenahay and they are Christian. Muslim Hamshenahay were forcefully converted by the sword roughly 3 centuries or so ago.

    To answer, the OP's question, Georgians are far closer to Armenians than to North Caucasians not because of religion, but other cultural aspects such as certain overlap in cuisine, architecture, genetics, either side being a part of another throughout various points in history etc.
    Thanks for the replying. Indeed the Wikipedia says that a part of Hemshin are Christian now. Strangelly, it doesn't mention the circumstances of the conversions though.

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    The details and the accompanying circumstances for the migrations and the conversions during the Ottoman era are not clearly known or documented.[40][41]

    As a result of those developments, distinctive communities with the same generic name have also appeared in the vicinity of Hopa, Turkey as well as in the Caucasus. Those three communities are almost oblivious to one another's existence.[42]

    The Hemshinli of Hemshin proper (also designated occasionally as western Hemshinli in publications) are Turkish-speaking Sunni Muslims who mostly live in the counties (ilçe) of Çamlıhemşin, Çayeli, İkizdere, Pazar and Hemşin in Turkey's Rize Province.[43]
    The Hopa Hemshinli (also designated occasionally as eastern Hemshinli in publications) are Sunni Muslims and mostly live in the Hopa and Borçka counties of Turkey's Artvin Province. In addition to Turkish, they also speak a dialect of western Armenian they call "Homshetsma" or "Hemşince" in Turkish.[44]
    Homshentsik (also designated occasionally as Northern Homshentsik in publications) are Christians who live in Georgia and in Russia's Krasnodar Krai. They speak Homshetsma as well.[45] There are also some Muslim Hamshentsi living in Georgia and Krasnodar[46] and some Hamshentsi elements amongst the Meskhetian Turks.[47]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemshin_peoples

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    Not easy answer. Culture has many aspects. In terms of folklore, Georgians and Armenians are like from different planets despite being neighbors, North Cuacasians are a bit closer to Georgians. But when it comes to lifestyle, mentality etc it's opposite. Georgians are the most liberal and modern nation in Caucasus, Ossetians are next, followed by Armenians. So if we compare the lifestyle i guess Armenians are even closer to patriarchal North Caucasus, than Georgians are.

    Also modern North Caucasus and Armenia are dominated by Russian culture, while Georgia has much more influences from the West.
    Last edited by user_; 12-17-2019 at 07:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
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    Also modern North Caucasus and Armenia are dominated by Russian culture, while Georgia has much more influences from the West.
    Thanks for your opinion. But what is the source of Russian culture in Armenia now that Russians almost don't settle there? Afaik, Russians settle in Georgia more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Thanks for your opinion. But what is the source of Russian culture in Armenia now that Russians almost don't settle there? Afaik, Russians settle in Georgia more.
    Armenians migrate to Russia and back, they bring modern Russian culture to Armenia. They have more contacts with north Caucasians, then Georgians have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Armenians migrate to Russia and back, they bring modern Russian culture to Armenia. They have more contacts with north Caucasians, then Georgians have.
    I see. But I think that they rather stick to their ways regardless of place of residence. Also you should know the joke about Sochi being the capital of Armenia, ha-ha.

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    Armenia, imo.

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    I do not find Georgian culture really close neither to Armenian, nor to North Caucasian. It has totally different vibe.








    p.s. I voted for Armenia
    Last edited by user_; 12-17-2019 at 05:47 PM.

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