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Thread: Are Georgians culturally closer to Armenians or to North Caucasians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    Byzantium, Christianity + high social role of woman in the West Caucasus, especially in the Kartvelo-Caucasian world.
    Ok. You are right. Ethnomentality is formed also by geography and surrounded nature - sea, mountains, temperature, apple trees so on. But religion, historical evolution, political sphere stratificated it.
    Agree about nature. West Caucasus is very green, with mild climate and people live in contact with forests. People are less aggressive, more open minded and women are emancipated. While Eastern Caucasus has dry climate, less forests and more conservative society.

    When i say Georgians have liberal and open minded society, i can prove it with demographic statistic. Georgian demographic pyramid is almost identical with the pyramids of developed countries and it is in European spectrum, with low birth rates and aging population. Conservative society can't have low birth rates.

    Lets take a look to demographic pyramids of Estonia, Georgia, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. All of them where in Soviet union but they have different demographic behavior.
    Estonia and Georgia being on upper step of demographic transition





    and Tajikistan with Uzbekistan on lower step.



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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Agree about nature. West Caucasus is very green, with mild climate and people live in contact with forests. People are less aggressive, more open minded and women are emancipated. While Eastern Caucasus has dry climate, less forests and more conservative society.

    When i say Georgians have liberal and open minded society, i can prove it with demographic statistic. Georgian demographic pyramid is almost identical with the pyramids of developed countries and it is in European spectrum, with low birth rates and aging population. Conservative society can't have low birth rates.

    Lets take a look to demographic pyramids of Estonia, Georgia, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan. All of them where in Soviet union but they have different demographic behavior.
    Estonia and Georgia being on upper step of demographic transition





    and Tajikistan with Uzbekistan on lower step.






    we have lots of woods and valleys where the grass grows green, eastern parts are full of great wildlife diversity, amazing nature, unique landscapes and the climatic variations from dry to humid

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    All industrial societies have low demographic pyramids
    High birth level have agricultural societies.
    Here green high trees don't play great role.

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    In Victorian England there was very high birth level.
    Charles Dickens had 10 children
    Don't see any connection between demography and open mindness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    we have lots of woods and valleys where the grass grows green, eastern parts are full of great wildlife diversity, amazing nature, unique landscapes and the climatic variations from dry to humid
    I think the user ment subtropic climate in the Black Sea Caucasus
    What's about liberalism the user is a liberalism supporter. Such kind of locals don't like local Christian, pro nationalistic Georgians. All conservative ultra religious societies of course are not liked, more are hated by them.
    We had such situation in the 20th century - struggling between cosmopolitan, atheist communists and local Georgian nationalists. The story repeats. But you non Georgians who don't know the situation in Georgia will not understand.
    The user wants to show that Georgian society is very liberal and "open minded". But more then half of population christens in front of churches. Though they are oppressed not like in SSSR but indirectly. They control massive media, the liberal centers have founded here a lot of "civil organization". They don't ban Christianity like it was done in Soviet Union directly but by propaganda they try to laugh at it, insult the religion and national values like it's in E Union . All attempts of defending they suppressed cruelly. As Christian Georgian I can advice not to pay great attention at liberals from any country including Georgia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    I think the user ment subtropic climate in the Black Sea Caucasus



    well, such subtropic climate and unique ecosystem you could find in the NE Caucasus if he meant it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    well, such subtropic climate and unique ecosystem you could find in the NE Caucasus if he meant it
    Subtropic climate is only in the Western Caucasus
    I am from E Georgia that's central Caucasus like Ingushetis and Chechenya. We have just one climate but our is 10° warmer as it's on the South Slopes of the Caucasus
    Of course W Georgia climate and nature is much more green just like jungles.
    It's seem you have not been in the W Caucasus low lands. Central Caucasus is green and rich in difference of E Caucasus but W Caucasus is just like half jungles. Their air is very hard to breath. You will guess this air just you pass through that mountain system that divided W and E Georgias

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    Subtropic climate is only in the Western Caucasus
    I am from E Georgia that's central Caucasus like Ingushetis and Chechenya. We have just one climate but our is 10° warmer as it's on the South Slopes of the Caucasus
    Of course W Georgia climate and nature is much more green just like jungles.
    It's seem you have not been in the W Caucasus low lands. Central Caucasus is green and rich in difference of E Caucasus but W Caucasus is just like half jungles. Their air is very hard to breath. You will guess this air just you pass through that mountain system that divided W and E Georgias



    have you ever heard about the subtropical forests in Dagestan?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Root View Post
    have you ever heard about the subtropical forests in Dagestan?


    Had no idea
    I know climate zones in the Caucasus in general and don't know in details.
    It's seems it's a little zone in Dagestan
    What I know about the NE Caucasus that's it's dry and hot just like NS Caucasus (Azerbaijan).

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    Had no idea
    I know climate zones in the Caucasus in general and don't know in details.
    It's seems it's a little zone in Dagestan
    What I know about the NE Caucasus that's it's dry and hot just like NS Caucasus (Azerbaijan).


    sound like myths.. I strongly recommend you to visit and explore the entire places in NE Caucasus. Very soon I'll post lots of photos in here

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