Why is Spain/Spanish influenced cultures like (CG/CO)more tolerant of brothels than Anglosphere?

[kratz]

Generally, places settled by Catholics (i.e., France and Spain) were tolerant of Brothels. Anglo Protestants were generally Calvinist and Evangelical, so... there.

Could you expand a bit more on this? I see a very striking difference going on.

[Atlantid]

This is true, I met a lot of British Escorts. That's why I'm a very confused by this. It seems that escorting and sugar dating are ok while brothels or talking about prostitution in a good light are not ok. Why are there a bunch of british men on the chats saying, "Don't visit hookers" "I know some guy who got addicted" while there are British and foreign women in the Uk who told me they make their money by being sugar babies/ escorts on the side. It's all very confusing.

Escorts are prostitutes, it's just another wording. Brothels are seen as unsanitary, in the first world everything is done discretely and upscale.

A lot of wealthy people are addicted to sex.

[Autrigón]

Hey guys,

So here's what's going on. I used to have a good friend from Colombia who told me that he lost his virginity at a high end brothel. He saw it as "no big deal" and even got a girlfriend later. I also went to a few brothels. My attitude towards it was that it was a fun experience and didn't think that much about it. I also heard of similar stories from Cuba and Spain(Again, I'm not an expert in this countries I only heard from friends.)

Only when I moved to the USA did I see a stigma attached to sex, sex workers, paying for sex. Suddenly, it was a horrible thing to do and it reflected poorly on you. There was also this paranoia with drug dealers, sex trafficking. Moreover, people didn't get a sex education, at least from all the friends I talked to their parents didn't teach them much about sex and they learn it from movies..etc. Moreover, having sex was glorified as one of the greatest things ever.

I honestly, didn't believe in any of these arguments.

As I'm a very curious person, I delve deeper into this topic. Therefore, I discovered Kevin B. MacDonald work on European society(He has other more controversial writings but they are not relevant to this discussion). Any way, MacDonald was saying the European society was based on monogamy and 'romantic love.' Then it hit me!

I realized that most of this British and American thinkers would say that having sex with hookers is not real because it lacks an "emotional connection." Now this was a very new concept for me. However, I delve deeper and discovered that Puritan society was based around marriage, and marriage was based around 'romantic love.' I'm not sure if 'emotional connections' are a cultural construction unique to Anglo-American society or if they arisen in other European societies as well.

Some questions which I'm still wondering about:
1-Why is Spain different from the UK if both are European societies? Somehow Spain seems to have a more lax attitude towards brothels..etc.
2-Why did brothels or paying for sex become more acceptable in Latin American societies like Colombia or Cuba maybe even more than Spain. Notice that my friend told me that his uncle simply took him to a brothel. He didn't "intellectualize' any of this it was simply part of the society and culture he was from.
3-It's interesting to see societies like Japan where some people marry based around 'moral obligation' and not 'romantic love' there's a very interesting YouTube video on this topic.
4-American men who go MGTOW truly have the world in their hands. They have the American individualism plus the more libertine and permissive societies from around the world.

Have you ever been in Amsterdam?

Anyway in Spain 95% of the prostitutes are Eastern europeans, African, Latin Americans and even Chinese. I mean, is their culture not ours.

[sean]

the first news about the dwarf is fake, and the second does not say that they are Spanish men you're just a poor fool unable to bring reliable sources

You are a dumbass, that shit is no fake news, it's all over the Internet lel.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...ripper-4407891

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ves-birth.html

Learn English and find a different carrier for your message.

Well, these numbers are increased by the huge number of drug and fucking tourism that comes to Spain, a number even higher than the spanish population itself. And most are northern european and specially british.

Anyway. Wanna post a study concluding that ninety percent of prostitutes in Spain are immigrants? That’s that ‘no outside help’, I guess.

Spain was quite conservative until Franco's death when the next leader decided to restore the monarchy and transition back to capitalism so he could have better relations with the west. Barcelona, Marbella/Málaga, Mallorca, Ibiza became holiday hotspots, they let underclass Brits turn their beaches into violent vomit fests full of tattooed hooligans without any complaints, the first legal hardcore pornographic film in Spain was actually made in 1984 with an all Spanish cast by the way.

It was a good laugh when that one sex doll brothel in Spain got shut down by screeching hookers because it was stealing all the business away from them.

Spain is barely producing anything of interest besides tourism and sex. Blame your politicians for not investing in anything productive. They have no grasp on economics, nor their political and social standing among the rest of the world, nor do they realise that a good portion of their money comes from tourism because they have literally nothing in terms of natural resources and are too stupid to become a manufacturing giant like say countries like Japan or South Korea.

Your daily obsessions about things like this are really telling. This isn’t a nuthouse for some frustrated wanker’s amusement.

OP is a latin mongrel who has posted several threads comparing Anglosphere countries with Latin world. Talking to most latin mongrels is like talking into a void because whatever you say they never hear what you said and respond to you with non related utter drivel. These rape products are obsessed with us. So shut your ignorant gob.

This is nonsense, London is the escort capital of the world.

But the escorts are actually Russian.

[Atlantid]

But the escorts are actually Russian.

Of course, hookers are never local. What province are you from?

[Tietar]

Spain is barely producing anything of interest besides tourism and sex.

At least in Spain, nobody from outside has to come to build the infrastructure

https://www.reuters.com/article/acs-...-idUSL8N1RS09R

[Aldaris]

Spain was quite conservative until Franco's death when the next leader decided to restore the monarchy and transition back to capitalism so he could have better relations with the west. Barcelona, Marbella/Málaga, Mallorca, Ibiza became holiday hotspots, they let underclass Brits turn their beaches into violent vomit fests full of tattooed hooligans without any complaints, the first legal hardcore pornographic film in Spain was actually made in 1984 with an all Spanish cast by the way.

It was a good laugh when that one sex doll brothel in Spain got shut down by screeching hookers because it was stealing all the business away from them.

Spain is barely producing anything of interest besides tourism and sex. Blame your politicians for not investing in anything productive. They have no grasp on economics, nor their political and social standing among the rest of the world, nor do they realise that a good portion of their money comes from tourism because they have literally nothing in terms of natural resources and are too stupid to become a manufacturing giant like say countries like Japan or South Korea.



OP is a latin mongrel who has posted several threads comparing Anglosphere countries with Latin world. Talking to most latin mongrels is like talking into a void because whatever you say they never hear what you said and respond to you with non related utter drivel. These rape products are obsessed with us. So shut your ignorant gob.

Don’t try to divert attention from my original point. How do you reconcile your position about Spain and its suppossed prostitution industry with no outsider help with the fact that ninety or more percent of hookers in Spain are immigrants (mind you, the number in Northwestern Europe is way lower and averages about sixty percent). You can’t make your case about the actual pattern, so that’s why you have to resort to red herring tactics. The cases you’ve referenced can be cherrypicked about every single country, but as far as Europe goes, you usually wouldn’t have to sift too much, in comparison with Spain, if you adjust for total population and all the other statistical stuff. As Autrigón says, prostitution in Spain is overwhelmingly a non-native subculture. In other words, nah, your attempt to portray Spain in this way doesn’t work. And I don’t really know when the hell the first legal hardcore pornographic film in Spain was actually made and nor do I care about things like that. But ether way, that doesn’t really help the point you’re trying to make. If it was indeed 1984, there were already tons of stuff like that coming from North America, and you guys keep beating Spain in that regard ever since, mind you.

As for the Spanish economy, even though this was never a subject in here and thus falls into the category of your red herring stuff, some numbers for you. We’re the 13th largest economy GDP-wise in the world, while being on around 30th place population-wise. Do the math yourself from there. I don’t want to go deep into the technical details, but as Tietar pointed out, we have one of the best infrastructures in the world, topping the US, external trade beyond most of EU countries, aswell as its growth rate, etc, etc. Hope you get the general point.

Lastly, I don’t give a heck about your alien affair with some Peruvian, who’s not really offensive towards anyone at all. But if you come up with unnecessary and irrelevant insulting of Spain regarding your supposed issue with him, I see right away what you're actually doing – a tryhard trolling. Trying to hide this is dishonest, but I don't expect any better from you.

[sean]

Don’t try to divert attention from my original point. How do you reconcile your position about Spain and its suppossed prostitution industry with no outsider help with the fact that ninety or more percent of hookers in Spain are immigrants (mind you, the number in Northwestern Europe is way lower and averages about sixty percent). You can’t make your case about the actual pattern, so that’s why you have to resort to red herring tactics.

The whole prostitution industry in Spain started with no outsider help back in early 1980s. I was just saying how it all started. Now we have girls trafficked from foreign countries because the industry is profitable. But the point remains, it was originally all Spanish.

And I don’t really know when the hell the first legal hardcore pornographic film in Spain was actually made and nor do I care about things like that. But ether way, that doesn’t really help the point you’re trying to make. If it was indeed 1984, there were already tons of stuff like that coming from North America, and you guys keep beating Spain in that regard ever since, mind you.

Spain is the brothel of Europe. I was just making a point Spain is a prostitute that opens her legs for foreigners. Back in the 80s many Spanish women got trafficked to Spanish resorts in Marbella to fuck rich Arab sex tourists for 10 dollars a day. Spain was still basically feudalism up until the 1970s, with the majority of the population held at a peasant level of economic development. North American economy is neither dependent on prostitution nor porn industry.

As for the Spanish economy, even though this was never a subject in here and thus falls into the category of your red herring stuff, some numbers for you. We’re the 13th largest economy GDP-wise in the world, while being on around 30th place population-wise. Do the math yourself from there. I don’t want to go deep into the technical details, but as Tietar pointed out, we have one of the best infrastructures in the world, topping the US, external trade beyond most of EU countries, aswell as its growth rate, etc, etc. Hope you get the general point.

Spain is still an economic basket case. 50% of your economy is tourism, and you have the highest unemployment rates in Europe.

GDP per Capita of Puerto Rico is greater than that of Spain, and also the highest growing economy of Latin America, even after the massive debt. I hope Mas and Pujol pay for your public debts.

Lastly, I don’t give a heck about your alien affair with some Peruvian, who’s not really offensive towards anyone at all. But if you come up with unnecessary and irrelevant insulting of Spain regarding your supposed issue with him, I see right away what you're actually doing – a tryhard trolling. Trying to hide this is dishonest, but I don't expect any better from you.

I never insulted anybody. Prostitution is big business in Spain. Fact. Deal with it.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ex-traffickers

Personally, I dont care about what you think my dearest of male virgins. How pathetic can your life would be to take a record of who is posting what kind of post and for what purpose?

I can easily book a ticket to Spain or Czech Republic now and fuck some high class 8/10 escort, but you would be still here posting your ridiculous opinions about shit you never bothered to research, for another decade on an anthroforum.

[Cristiano viejo]

the escorts are actually Russian.

You are retarded, Indian boy. So the prostitutes in uk are Russians, but in Spain are natives? hahaha

British brought here degeneration (Magaluf, Ibiza, etc). And 99% of prostitutes are immigrants.

[Cristiano viejo]

I am not Indian, you mongrel.

You are Indian, mongrel.

It was your politicians who opened your doors to tourism back in the 80s, blame them. British tourists in Spain are underclass, basically our white niggers, so who cares lel.

haha, what a joke... so our politicians open our doors to tourism, come retards from UK showing their primitive behavior... and is our fault??