What percentage of native Europeans actually have truly white skin?

[Diego Garcia]

You are wrong as always . The Basque people are the palest actually, the Irish are only fair-skinned precisely because they're mostly descended from them.

lol

[Lannister]

You are wrong as always . The Basque people are the palest actually, the Irish are only fair-skinned precisely because they're mostly descended from them.

LMAO. You MUST be trolling here right?

[Lannister]

Not that old furphy again? You haven't looked into genetics obviously.

I think he's trolling

[Septentrion]

You are wrong as always . The Basque people are the palest actually, the Irish are only fair-skinned precisely because they're mostly descended from them.

Please stop your nonsense. The Basques are not physically any different from any other northern Spaniard or southwestern Frenchman. The Irish are not descended from Basques, stop living in Oppenheimer’s dreams. The closest population to the Irish are in the British Isles and Northern Europe. I thought you knew that. You need an update on genetics.

[Septentrion]

You are wrong as always . The Basque people are the palest actually, the Irish are only fair-skinned precisely because they're mostly descended from them.

Dude, are you trolling? If you are, I’ll put you in you place. I would rather think that you aren’t and that you were still stuck in with past hypothesis. With better advancements in genetics, it is pretty easy now to see that the Irish of NW Europe are not descendants of Basques.
You can see in the image below based on genetic studies below, the Irish and Scottish folks cluster genetically between Norwegians and other British Islanders. They are just a Northern European people. This is also why very fair or pale skin is commonest amongst them, which is the result of an adaptation to a specific climate.

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Now you take a good look where the Basques are situated. The Irish and Scottish who are a Celtic people, are in fact a lot closer to Germanic Europeans than to the Basques. If you say that they are “descended” from Basques, then all Germanic Europeans are also from Basques. See where the nonsense is?

[Creoda]

Northern Europeans - predominantly pinkish/rosy-white
Southern Europeans - predominantly beige-white, tending to tan
Middle Easterners - between tan-brown and beige-white

[Zeno]

I wouldn't say exactly, but most Europeans do have white skin, with Northern Europeans being rosy white and Southern Europeans beige white predominantly.

[L.o.l.i.t.a]

By that I mean nothing darker than this:

If 'white' skin includes types I II and III more than 95%, but if it only includes types I and II I think it is no more than 60%. If I include only type I, I think it is less than 30%.

[Jaromir]

16,74%

[Sebastianus Rex]

They are, though not dramatically so. Although there is probably not much difference in terms of hair and eye colour between Iberians on the one hand and Balkan groups on the other, from what I have seen the latter don't have as many truly olive-skinned individuals as the former. (Though to reiterate, in ALL parts of Europe - mainland at least - the percentage of people with truly white skin is very much over half).

Regarding the born/natural skin tone none of those nationalities are on average lighter than Iberians, certainly not Balkanics (only northwestern euros are, particularly from the British Islands). We just get more sun than pretty much everybody else in Europe, about half of the Peninsula has more than 3000 hours of sun per year wich is huge for European standards.

There was even a pigmentational study made a few years ago with hundreds of people sampled from 4 countries (Portugal, Italy, Poland and Ireland) comparing several pigmentational factors among all those countries and regarding the skin when unexposed to the sun the Portuguese were the second lightest after the Irish (who were clearly the lightest of the 4), this was a scientific study using precise methodology and equipment, not based on anthrotardism.

Give you a simple example, Ruben Dias in I believe in October (not August) when he signed for Man City coming from Benfica. Looks type III right ?





Last match vs PSG, after 6 or 7 months in rainy Manchester.




Same as Stones.