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    Default 23andme Croats haplogroup stats

    Ydna statistics (sample size 45)

    I = 62%
    R = 31%
    J = 4%
    E = 2%
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    I2 = 46%
    R1a = 29%
    I1 = 16%
    R1b, E1b, J2 = 2% each
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    I2-din = 44%
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    Other Subclades found:

    R1a-Z280-CTS1211-CTS3402 (3 samples)
    R1a-Z280-CTS1211 (1 sample)
    I2-din South-Z16983 (1 sample)
    I2-M26 (1 sample)
    I1-Z63-Y6228 (1 sample)
    I1-Z63-Y13946 (1 sample)
    I1-L22-P109 (1 sample)
    J2a-L70 (1 sample)
    J2b2-L283 (1 sample)
    R1b-Z2103 (1 sample)
    E-V13 (1 sample)

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    mtdna statistics (sample size 71)

    H = 39%
    U = 15%
    T = 11%
    J, K = 7% each
    HV, R0 = 6% each
    V = 4%
    X, N, I = 1%
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    Subclade distribution:

    H1 (8 samples)
    U5a (5 samples)
    H5a (4 samples)
    H (4 samples)
    J1c (4 samples)
    T1a (3 samples)
    T1 (2 samples)
    T2b (2 samples)
    K1b (2 samples)
    V1a (2 samples)
    U5b (2 samples)
    H1b (2 samples)
    H13a (2 samples)
    H1t (1 sample)
    H1c (1 sample)
    H1h (1 sample)
    H4 (1 sample)
    H6a (1 sample)
    H7 (1 sample)
    H11a (1 sample)
    H61 (1 sample)
    HV5 (1 sample)
    I1a (1 sample)
    J1b (1 sample)
    K1 (1 sample)
    K1a (1 sample)
    K1c (1 sample)
    N1b (1 sample)
    T2 (1 sample)
    U4a (1 sample)
    U4b (1 sample)
    U7 (1 sample)
    U8b (1 sample)
    V2 (1 sample)
    X2b (1 sample)

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    Little info about ydna subclades:

    R1a-Z280 is associated with the Baltic-speaking people and its descendant subclade CTS3402 is mainly found in the Dinaric Alps spanning from Albania to Serbia, especially among the Croats. R1a-CTS3402 has high frequencies in Croatia and Southern Poland and CTS3402 may be linked to the Slavic expansion to the Balkans.
    Croatian R1a falls almost exclusively within CTS1211. The west Eurasian R1a1a1b1a2b-CTS1211 subclade of R1a is most frequent in Eastern Europe especially among Slavic people.
    When all the maps are merged it indicates that there's a higher variance of I-PH908 subclades in Eastern Europe than in Central Europe and that from Eastern Europe migrated in the direction of West and South. The most if not all subclades arrived in Southeastern Europe from Eastern Europe, roughly along the area of Eastern Carpathian Mountains and through Carpathian Basin, most probably during the period of Pannonian Avars and revolts against them by Slavs and Bulgars by the mid-7th century. It is not excluded a possibility of a very limited Polabian Slavic contribution (only for subclades Z16983 and FT16449).
    Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 is notable for its strong presence in Sardinia. Haplogroup I-M170 comprises approximately 40% of all patrilines among the Sardinians, and I2a1a-M26 is the predominant type of I among them.
    Haplogroup I2a1a-M26 is practically absent east of France and Italy.The M26 mutation is found in native males inhabiting every geographic region where megaliths may be found, including such far-flung and culturally disconnected regions as the Canary Islands, the Balearic Isles, Corsica, Ireland, and Sweden.
    Geographically I-Z63 is believed to have arisen in or near what is now Denmark (based in part on the current distribution of this haplogroup).The current distribution of I-Z63 shows that there is a very high concentration of I-Z63 on the British Isles. At the same time, the archeological record presents a strong association of I-Z63 to the Wielbark culture and by extension with the Goths.
    Scandinavian subclade I1-P109 most likely came to Balkans via Sicily with Normans, and reaches high frequencies among Montenegrin tribe of Drobnjak
    J-L70 is quite young. It peaks in Southern Anatolia (Underhill King data) at about 12%. This is very high for such a young subclade as L70. Its presence spreads from there along the coasts of the mediterranean-northern levant. It has another peak in western Sicily at approx. 11%. L70 is the quintessential Mediterranean/maritime marker and without a doubt it was brought to Europe via the Med from the Levant and Southern Anatolia. There is a high diversity of J2a in Italy, but the most common branch found all over the peninsula and therefore most likely linked with a Roman diffusion is L70.
    The oldest J2b2-L283 sample recovered among ancient DNA samples is a Late Bronze Age (1700-1500 BCE) individual from southern Croatia (Mathieson et al. 2017). His genome possessed about 30% of Steppe admixture and 15% of Eastern Hunter-Gatherer, which suggest a recent arrival from the Steppe. He was accompanied by a woman with similar admixtures, and both possessed typical Pontic-Caspian Steppe mtDNA (I1a1 and W3a). The timing, location and admixtures of these samples fit with the Illyrian colonisation of the Dinaric Alps, which is thought to have taken place between 1600 and 1100 BCE.
    All the seven Yamna samples belonged to the R1b-Z2103 subclade. R1b-Z2103 appear to be linked to Palaeo-Balkan migrations
    On the European continent E-V13 has the highest concentration in Kosovo (over 45%), Albania and Montenegro (both 27%), Bulgaria (23%), Macedonia and Greece (both 21%), Cyprus (20%), Sicily (20%), South Italy (18.5%), Serbia (18%) and Romania (15%).Nowadays E-V13 is the only Mediterranean haplogroup consistently found throughout Europe, even in Norway, Sweden, Finland and Baltic countries, which are conspicuous by the absence of other Neolithic haplogroups like G2a (bar the Indo-European G2a-Z1815), J1 and T (except in Estonia).

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    mtdna subclades -part 1

    H1: found in Europe, North Africa, the Near East, Central Asia and North Asia / found in Neolithic Portugal, Spain, France, Germany and Poland
    H1b: found especially in Eastern Europe, Central Asia and North Asia / found in Bronze Age Latvia
    H1c: found especially in Eastern Europe, Central Asia and North Asia / / found in Neolithic Germany and in Bronze Age Latvia
    H1t: found among the Basques
    H5a: found in the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture
    H5a1: found in most of Europe and Siberia
    H6: found throughout Europe, in the Near East and Central Asia
    H13: found mostly around the Caucasus, Iran, Anatolia, and Sardinia, but also across along the Mediterranean coasts of Europe
    H61: found in Hungary
    J1b1a : found in Europe, the Caucasus and India
    J1c: subclades occasionally have deep clades found in West Asia, South Asia, Central Asia or North Asia. In most cases those subclades would have been spread outside Europe by the Indo-European migrations
    J1c1 : found throughout Europe
    J1c1b : found in western and northern Europe
    K: appears in Central Europe, Southern Europe, Northern Europe, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, South Asia and West Asia and in populations with such an ancestry.
    K1a5 : found in the Levant
    R0: today occurs commonly in the Arabian peninsula, with its highest frequency observed nearby among the Soqotri (40.7%). The Soqotri also have the greatest R0 subclade diversity. The clade is likewise found at high frequencies among the Kalash in South Asia (23%). Additionally, moderate frequencies of R0 occur in Northeast Africa, Anatolia, the Iranian Plateau and Dalmatia
    T1: tends to be found further east and is common in Central Asian and modern Turkic populations , who inhabit much of the same territory as the ancient Saka, Sarmatian, Andronovo, and other putative Iranian peoples of the 2nd and 1st millennia BC. The highest frequencies of mtDNA T1 are observed among the Udmurts (15%) of the Volga-Ural region of Russia, followed by Romania (6%) and the southern Balkans (Bulgaria, Macedonia, Albania, all 4.5%), the northern Fertile Crescent (Lebanon, Iraq, eastern Turkey, all around 5.5%), the South Caucasus (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, 4.5% to 5.5%), then Austria and the Czech Republic (3.5%)
    T2b: found at high frequencies throughout Europe (especially around the Alps) and at lower frequencies in North Asia, Central Asia and the Middle East
    U5a2b : found in Bronze Age Hungary
    V2: found in the British Isles
    X2b: found throughout Europe (incl. Sardinia and Orkney), in Morocco, among the Druzes and in parts of Central Asia
    Last edited by Jana; 12-20-2019 at 07:48 PM.

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    mtdna subclades -part 2

    H1h: found in Central Europe, Britain and Finland
    H4: found especially in central and western Europe, but also in the Near East and Caucasus
    HV: found mainly in Western Asia, Southern Europe, Eastern Europe and North Africa
    HV5 : found around Lithuania, Belarus and Poland
    I1a1: found in north-east Europe and Siberia
    K1c1 : found in Italy
    N1b – found in Middle East, Egypt (Gurna), Caucasus and Europe
    T2 peaks among the Udmurts (24%) and the Chechen-Ingush of Daghestan (12.5%). After that T2 is most frequently encountered in the Netherlands (12%), Sardinia (10%), Iceland (10%), Switzerland (9.5%), Hungary (8.5%) and Ukraine (8.5%), as well as among many ethnic groups around the Caucasus such as the Kumyks (10%), Azeri (9.5%) and Georgians (9%).
    U4a2c: spread almost exclusively among Slavs
    U5a2c: found in Mesolithic Germany and Latvia
    U5b1: found in northwest Africa, western, central and north-east Europe, Central Asia and Siberia / found in Epipalaeolithic Germany, Switzerland and France
    U5b1b : found in Mesolithic France and Poland
    U7: occurs at low frequency in the Caucasus, the western Siberian tribes, West Asia (about 4% in the Near East, while peaking with 10% in Iranians), South Asia (about 12% in Gujarat, the westernmost state of India, while for the whole of India its frequency stays around 2%, and 5% in Pakistan)
    U8b: This clade has been found in Italy and Jordan
    V1a: found mostly from central to northeast Europe

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    Probably, all modern women with R0 in Europe are descendant of a woman who settled in Balkans 6.000 years ago. I found an article about her but that article is in my other PC.

    Good to see other CTS-3402's btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thracian View Post
    Probably, all modern women with R0 in Europe are descendant of a woman who settled in Balkans 6.000 years ago. I found an article about her but that article is in my other PC.

    Good to see other CTS-3402's btw.
    Thanks, very interesting. About our R1a: ''Croatian R1a falls almost exclusively within CTS1211, to a clade Y35>CTS3402>Y2613>Y2608 subclade''
    My statistics confirms this.

    mtdna subclades - part 3

    H7: found mostly in the Near East, Caucasus, Iran, Central Asia and Balto-Slavic countries
    H11a: found across most of northern, central and eastern Europe and in Central Asia / found in Mesolithic Lithuania, Middle Neolithic Germany and Megalithic Spain
    J1c4 : found in central and northern Europe
    K1b2: the subclade probably originated after K reached Europe. It's now found from Scandinavia down through the British Isles and Central Europe down to Spain
    K1b2a : found in central and northern Europe
    T1a1: Indo-European subclade found in Europe, the Caucasus, the Near East, Central Asia and South Asia
    U4b : found in Mesolithic and Neolithic Ukraine
    U5a1: found in most of Europe, Siberia, Central Asia, South Asia (incl. India) and the Middle East / found in Mesolithic Russia and Neolithic Ukraine
    U5a2a: found across northern Europe (including Mesolithic Germany), in Croatia, European Russia, Iran (Persians), Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan) and Siberia / found in Mesolithic Serbia, Neolithic Ukraine and Bronze Age Hungary

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    Ydna update (sample size 46)

    I = 59%
    R = 35%
    J = 4%
    E = 2%

    I2 = 43% (I2-din 41%)
    R1a = 30%
    I1 = 15%
    R1b = 4%
    J2 = 4% (J2a 2%, J2b 2%)
    E1b = 2%

    New sublades:

    R1b-M269 : R-M269 (also known as R1b1a2) is the most dominant subclade of R-M343 (R1b), which is itself the most common Y-DNA haplogroup in Western Europe

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    New mtdna samples:

    H1
    H13a1a1a
    U2e1a: found in central, western and northern Europe / found in the Yamna and Corded Ware cultures
    U5a1

    Now mtdna H is 41% and U 16%.
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