Holy ****! Trump got Impeached!

[Armenian Bishop]

Do you actually believe that? Everyone admits that it's partisan.

Of course there're partisan interests involved (deeply involved) from Republicans as well as Democrats, but strategically it wasn't a good way to promote the partisan interests of the Democrats, until President Trump exhibited red flags that forced Pelosi's hand, and compelled her to investigate. Irregardless of whether the red flags lead us to anything substantial, they still must be investigated, and the end result of the Congressional Investigation didn't exonerate Triump. On the contrary, Trump was doing his darnedest to prevent potential witnesses from testifying in the Congressional Impeachment Hearings. So, that in itself points at "abuse of power" and obstruction of Congress". Having said that, it's clear that it won't be confirmed by the Senate, because a wall of Republican Shields simply don't want to have it done (regardless of whether there are any good reasons).

[alnortedelsur]

Of course there're partisan interests involved (deeply involved) from Republicans as well as Democrats, but strategically it wasn't a good way to promote the partisan interests of the Democrats, until President Trump exhibited red flags that forced Pelosi's hand, and compelled her to investigate. Irregardless of whether the red flags lead us to anything substantial, they still must be investigated, and the end result of the Congressional Investigation didn't exonerate Triump. On the contrary, Trump was doing his darnedest to prevent potential witnesses from testifying in the Congressional Impeachment Hearings. So, that in itself points at "abuse of power" and obstruction of Congress". Having said that, it's clear that it won't be confirmed by the Senate, because a wall of Republican Shields simply don't want to have it done (regardless of whether there are any good reasons).

There aren't any good reasons other than the will of democrats to get him out of the game because they don't want him reelected.

[Armenian Bishop]

House Republicans and Democrats saw "evidence" all GOP representatives voted against the impeachment and even 2 democrat representatives voted against it.

The GOP Senators wont give any more relevance to this silly political game of the democrats.

I have things to do, and I'm not in the mood to do the work for stacking up a list of items, right now. But, I simply don't buy what you've been saying. The same goes for the others.

[Armenian Bishop]

There aren't any good reasons other than the will of democrats to take him out of the game because they don't want him reelected.

I don't buy that baloney. In the first place, the less mature and extremist Democrats have been reigned in by Pelosi, who's been around long enough to know better. There was enough reasons to raised suspicions (regardless of whether the suspicions are misleading us). The Impeachment issues raised, appear to be based upon Trump's actions during the actual impeachment hearings, as well as anything that preceded it.

* I'll be singing in a Christmas Concert, 2 hours from now, so I'm going to let the folks here carry on without me now.

[KMack]

Of course there're partisan interests involved (deeply involved) from Republicans as well as Democrats, but strategically it wasn't a good way to promote the partisan interests of the Democrats, until President Trump exhibited red flags that forced Pelosi's hand, and compelled her to investigate. Irregardless of whether the red flags lead us to anything substantial, they still must be investigated, and the end result of the Congressional Investigation didn't exonerate Triump. On the contrary, Trump was doing his darnedest to prevent potential witnesses from testifying in the Congressional Impeachment Hearings. So, that in itself points at "abuse of power" and obstruction of Congress". Having said that, it's clear that it won't be confirmed by the Senate, because a wall of Republican Shields simply don't want to have it done (regardless of whether there are any good reasons).

Obama Admin/Holder DOJ never complied with multiple Congressional subpoenas, and the GOP held house never impeached anyone. Telling Zelensky to look into the criminal corrupt conduct of Burisma/Biden isn't abuse of power or anything criminal. That is what any smart CEO would do.

[KMack]

Dems won't deliver articles to the Senate, fucking joke lol.

[MysteriousWays]

Dems won't deliver articles to the Senate, fucking joke lol.

So it's basically the same as censuring him now.

[KMack]

So it's basically the same as censuring him now.

It is nothing. Childish behavior, it is the kids that never got invited to the cool kids lunch table in high school acting out.

[Rico33]

Yang it will be.