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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post

    It's exactly what the want! And I hope the pro 2a people in Virginia (there are probably close to a million, btw) will not fall into that trap. I also hope the movement will not be infiltrated. The VA Beach shooting was obv. part of the deep state. There are over 2 million gun owners in Virginia. The Governor seriously thinks he can just pry things out of their hand? Also orders go from bottom to top. Not top to bottom. He can't just write something into law. Even some Virginia Dems are against the radical gun laws.

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    I'm for the right of people to own guns for self-defense, but banning assault guns doesn't seem radical to me. Compared to gun laws in many European countries it's a mild decision. Do normal citizens really need assault guns for self-defense?

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    This fascinating book looks into the very real possibility that America could descend into a racial civil war in the coming decade. Frightening, but full of facts that are difficult to argue with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Pill View Post
    I'm for the right of people to own guns for self-defense, but banning assault guns doesn't seem radical to me. Compared to gun laws in many European countries it's a mild decision. Do normal citizens really need assault guns for self-defense?
    The point is self-defense against the government not other citizens therefore assault guns should not be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    The point is self-defense against the government not other citizens therefore assault guns should not be banned.
    Now I understand. But this makes me also understand the enormous difference between Europe and the US. If you see your government like something you need to defend yourself from with weapons and wage war against, then there is something fundamentally wrong with the United States at the foundation, I'm sorry if I say so, I don't mean to be offensive. To me the state only function is to serve its citizens. In a nation-state it's to serve the nation, to which the citizens belong. In this I can even agree with Adolf Hitler, who stated it in Mein Kampf. If the state is just an institution to protect private property but that you fundamentally mistrust and must be prepared to wage war against, then it has little value to me. Now I see that my idea of creating racial homelands in the US makes maybe little sense. If people cannot trust state institutions then an ethnostate is impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Pill View Post
    I'm for the right of people to own guns for self-defense, but banning assault guns doesn't seem radical to me. Compared to gun laws in many European countries it's a mild decision. Do normal citizens really need assault guns for self-defense?
    The problem is they have expanded the definition of "assault rifle" to include basically anything that isn't a pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Pill View Post
    Now I understand. But this makes me also understand the enormous difference between Europe and the US. If you see your government like something you need to defend yourself from with weapons and wage war against, then there is something fundamentally wrong with the United States at the foundation, I'm sorry if I say so, I don't mean to be offensive. To me the state only function is to serve its citizens. In a nation-state it's to serve the nation, to which the citizens belong. In this I can even agree with Adolf Hitler, who stated it in Mein Kampf. If the state is just an institution to protect private property but that you fundamentally mistrust and must be prepared to wage war against, then it has little value to me. Now I see that my idea of creating racial homelands in the US makes maybe little sense. If people cannot trust state institutions then an ethnostate is impossible.
    Americans don't need a large government to ensure an ethno-state all they need is libertarianism since birds of a feather naturally flock together and without a large government you can't enforce things like civil rights for minorities, affirmative action for blacks , forced interracial bussing etc.. etc..

    If Karl Marx was right about one thing it is that corporations tend towards monopoly but so do governments tend towards monopoly as well and the ultimate monopoly is one world government of the New World Order.

    Don't fall for the liberal-conservative or the right wing and left wing dichotomy. It is false and misleading, and is easily used by tyrants to restrict freedom. For example, our 'conservative' tyrants have given us a 'war on drugs' which has eviscerated many of our rights; while our liberal tyrants have given us 'civil rights' which have eviscerated even more rights. The point is that the only real political divide is between small government (whose harm is limited) and Big Government (whose harm seems to be unlimited) -- a divide which really translates into the question of how much taxes should the government be allowed to impose on us (right now American taxpayers are estimated to pay 40% of their incomes, which I imagine is actually a far too conservative number if the hidden taxes such as 'fees' and (government- caused) inflation are taken into account).

    My nigga, you agree with Adolf Hitler so you need to stay in Europe.

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