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Thread: Ancient Fennoscandian genomes reveal origin and spread of Siberian ancestry in Europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Sorry for asking this kind of questions but do they look Finnish or not?
    Seeing pictures would be only way to estimate it, but I have no right to show them. It is not easy to answer, because children's appearance changes when they grow up and I don't know how do Finns look like

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Actually my wife is from Karelia and her father belonged to N1c1. I can easily tolerate it and I hope that my friend Broadskull could also love all kind of skulls And I am a grandfather of half-jews. So my grandchildren are real mongrels


    Guy in bottom left row (from viewers pov) has cephalic index of 84, so he is in fact hyper-brachycephalic. It is also obvious by just looking at his skull that he has massive absolute measurements in both skull height, and skull breadth categories Surely this BROADSKULL specimen is superior humanoid to the dolicocephalic australoid neanderthals to his right and above

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    @Broadskull,

    it could be hard to believe, but I have very little interest in skulls and my pet topic is history. It is also true that even counting all on forums like this I can't find enough knowledge about Finns to have fruitful discussion on this theme. Just google in English and come to reality. So, you are free to make your skull demonstrations and if someone loves to share with you, I am happy for you, but let me make it clear, this someone is not me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
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    Do you think the Indo-Europeans (Fatyanovo-Balanovo) in Central Russia were later Uralicized by Uralic speakers coming from the East? How would the alleged FU-speaking tribes around Moscow be otherwise explained?

    The pink area
    The history of this region is poorly understood and some new archaelogical and genetic studies should give a much better picture. As far as i know Volosovo (Sakhtysh site in the Ivanovo oblast ) prior to Fatyanovo was R1b-M269, R1a, I2a and Q. It seems that HGs there also had links to Narva HGs who were also mostly R1b but with a lot of WHG so Volosovo could actually be quite a western HG group.

    Later Fatyanovo pushed from the southwest into the region and rumours talk about R1b-P312 there which actually is today mostly present in West Europe. I also heard about R1a-Z80 in late Volosovo/early Fatyanovo. Anyways Fatyanovo groups were pushed away by Abashevo groups which according to rumours were R1a this already happend prior to Finno-Ugrian migrations into this region. Also Para-Balto-Slavs pushed probably from the west also into this region. So genuine Fatyanovo ancestry was already low when Finno-Ugrians arrived. Finno-Ugrians also lack R1b-P312 which Fatyanovo seemed to have but this are rumours so maybe this will turn out not correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    As expected meds have the lowest siberian admixture.

    In what Eurogenes we Spaniards don´t have Siberian? Most of the Spaniard I have seen on Eurogenes have Siberian. I even score a good amount.

    By the way, a finnish looking Spaniard with broad skull.


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