Was Wielbark Culture (east Germans mixing w/ Slavs) responsible for Nordic phenotype in slavs?

[Token]

Where did you get “ is becoming increasingly evident” from? Any source? As far as im concerned, all archeological and genetic discoveries show that the Yamnaya came from the steppe.

Yamnaya is a steppe culture, but it was probably not PIE because their Y haplogroups doesn't match Indo-European Y haplos. Corded Ware is the earliest 'certainly Indo-European' culture, but it doesn't explain Hittite-Luwian, so the Proto-Indo-European people from whom Corded Ware came from are probably hidden somewhere in the steppes. Sredny Stog is a good candidate.

[Yamnaya]

Yamnaya is a steppe culture, but it was probably not PIE because their Y haplogroups doesn't match Indo-European Y haplos. Corded Ware is the earliest 'certainly Indo-European' culture, but it doesn't explain Hittite-Luwian, so the Proto-Indo-European people from whom Corded Ware came from are probably hidden somewhere in the steppes. Sredny Stog is a good candidate.

Actually uf you have more info about this i will love to read more about this.

I also had serious doubts about the hyphotesis because of finnish having barely any R1B, R1A, but then seeing that finns dont score any CHG, it was assummed that finns most likely didnt intermixed with with yamnaya, but are almost fully of EHG heritage. I dont know about the rest of countries but i will like to know aswell, specially nordic countries where I1 is so prevalent

[Dick]

Yamnaya is a steppe culture, but it was probably not PIE because their Y haplogroups doesn't match Indo-European Y haplos. Corded Ware is the earliest 'certainly Indo-European' culture, but it doesn't explain Hittite-Luwian, so the Proto-Indo-European people from whom Corded Ware came from are probably hidden somewhere in the steppes. Sredny Stog is a good candidate.

What about a CWC+GAC G25 admix calc, would that work

[Token]

What about a CWC+GAC G25 admix calc, would that work

For North Europeans yes.

[Token]

Actually uf you have more info about this i will love to read more about this.

I also had serious doubts about the hyphotesis because of finnish having barely any R1B, R1A, but then seeing that finns dont score any CHG, it was assummed that finns most likely didnt intermixed with with yamnaya, but are almost fully of EHG heritage. I dont know about the rest of countries but i will like to know aswell, specially nordic countries where I1 is so prevalent

Finns are still mostly of Corded Ware stock and Finland was likely Baltic speaking before the Iron Age, but they also got a huge portion of their EHG-related admixture from Uralics, which is why they might seem extremely IE when they actually aren't. Uralics came from around the Ural steppes after all.

[Dick]

For North Europeans yes.

Include Barcin as well for all Europeans?

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POL_Globular_Amphora:I2433,0.126344,0.171624,0.05506,-0.019703,0.084939,-0.023427,-0.00329,0.006923,0.05379,0.075992,-0.006658,0.01169,-0.023042,-0.014313,-0.0057,0.000928,0.007693,0.007981,0.003017,0.001251,0.010107,0.01286,-0.012695,-0.022413,-0.006706
POL_Globular_Amphora:I2441,0.129758,0.178733,0.055437,-0.024871,0.084631,-0.022311,0.001645,0.006461,0.057471,0.082188,-0.001137,0.012589,-0.022596,-0.012661,-0.000814,0.005967,0.001695,0.004814,0.008673,0.000125,0.006613,0.003833,-0.008011,-0.019521,0.001557
POL_Globular_Amphora:N38,0.124067,0.164516,0.061471,-0.020026,0.085247,-0.012271,0.006345,0.003461,0.049904,0.07253,-0.001461,0.009442,-0.018731,-0.004404,-0.013436,-0.007558,0.008866,0.009375,0.004777,0.000875,0,0.008532,-0.009983,-0.02169,-0.000599
UKR_Globular_Amphora:ILK001,0.125205,0.1635,0.054682,-0.024871,0.081861,-0.011713,-0.00235,0.007384,0.054812,0.072348,-0.001786,0.004046,-0.015758,-0.009634,-0.0076,0.016971,0.023078,0.0019,0.006285,0.002126,0.007736,0.008532,-0.019843,-0.022413,0.002874
UKR_Globular_Amphora:ILK002,0.118376,0.169593,0.061094,-0.01938,0.084631,-0.017012,0,-0.002077,0.048881,0.071619,0.002111,0.003597,-0.011893,-0.001376,-0.0057,-0.008353,-0.007432,0.003421,0.000377,-0.008379,0.00549,0.000866,-0.017501,-0.024341,0.003113
UKR_Globular_Amphora:ILK003,0.125205,0.173656,0.065996,-0.017119,0.082477,-0.016176,-0.00329,0.005307,0.052358,0.073441,-0.001137,0.007943,-0.025124,0.006606,-0.016422,-0.01432,-0.000261,0.011909,0.008799,-0.007629,0.012977,0.00507,-0.013804,-0.022172,0.003712

Target: Albanian
Distance: 1.8678% / 0.01867775
58.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 Corded_Ware_Baltic_early
14.4 Corded_Ware_DEU

Target: French_Paris
Distance: 1.1631% / 0.01163148
33.8 POL_Globular_Amphora
31.0 Corded_Ware_DEU
11.8 Corded_Ware_Baltic_early
8.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
7.6 Corded_Ware_POL
5.2 Corded_Ware_CZE_o
2.0 Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL

Target: Polish
Distance: 3.6022% / 0.03602219
61.0 Corded_Ware_POL
23.8 Corded_Ware_DEU
14.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
1.0 Corded_Ware_Baltic_early

[Voyt]

I was talking about Russians, and being thd origin of slavs closer to the original yamnaya steppe than to any other ethnicity region, plus being northeastern europeans closer to yamnaya than any other ethnicity, it suggests than intermixing with a nord would just add few drops of ENF ancestry, as corded ware were 75% yamnaya 25% ENF. So nords intermixing with balto-finnic-slavs would barely change their genetic admixture

Ok, but "Yamnaya steppe" isn't the source of Nordid phenotype in the first place. It's a component of it sure, but it's not even a plurality component. ENF ancestry is relevant because ENF contains a portion of WHG, and the Nordid phenotype which is primarily found in Scandinavia is more WHG than it is EHG. Seeing as Nordids proper are doli, and Russian Nordids are also mostly doli, there is still some missing link here that your theory doesn't explain. The most Yamnaya people are the Finns, and yet they are predominantly brachy east baltid (except for the southwest Finns, who were influenced by Swedes)

Perhaps Peterski's explanation makes the most sense in the end, which is that EHG-type is responsible for the long-faced "proto-nordid". While the "Nordid-proper" is the result of long-faced EEF + EHG + WHG

[Yamnaya]

Finns are still mostly of Corded Ware stock and Finland was likely Baltic speaking before the Iron Age, but they also got a huge portion of their EHG-related admixture from Uralics, which is why they might seem extremely IE when they actually aren't. Uralics came from around the Ural steppes after all.

Theyre not, you cant be CW if you dont have CHG which was part of the genetic ancestry of Indo Europeans

[ProudBrit]

The true germanic faces (most common among the dutch, scandos and northern germans) are not nordids but faelid-borreby mixes.True nordids are about as common as true meds among southerners.
Most guessed "nordids" among germanics are new generation, more gracile/reduced faelids with minimum borreby.

[Token]

Theyre not, you cant be CW if you dont have CHG which was part of the genetic ancestry of Indo Europeans

They do have CHG. You are probably looking at outdated Gedmatch calculators.