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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Not Spain but Norway, then England. Shove your Columbian fantasy up your arse.
    Norway was not able to put America in a map (such advanced civilization). Spain did.
    Not only that: Norway was not able to conquer it and less even to colonize it. Spain did. Spain spread its religion, surnames, culture, language, place names. Not Norway: Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Norway was not able to put America in a map (such advanced civilization). Spain did.
    Not only that: Norway was not able to conquer it and less even to colonize it. Spain did. Spain spread its religion, surnames, culture, language, place names. Not Norway: Spain.
    English had our own Italian navigators in the Cabot family. No Columbus involved, no Spain either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Not Spain but Norway, then England. Shove your Columbian fantasy up your arse.
    Norwegians stumbled upon it, built one camp in there and then fortgot about it. I hope you understand that anything worth of being called discovery would be much more complex than that. It was the Spanish and Portuguese, who connected the two worlds in a systematic, long-term manner, conquered the existing empires and began the Columbian exchange. So no, I won’t grant you your point. Even if I felt that generous, there already were old worlders making contact with America and its people, namely the Siberians living near the Bering strait.

    English had our own Italian navigators in the Cabot family. No Columbus involved, no Spain either.
    Again, followed by no colonization. It was the Spanish who had done all the relevant stuff in the 1500s. The English didn't even have a one real settlement in there until one hundred years ago later, by which most of North America was already well-integrated part of Spanish empire. So the case is pretty much the same as in the paragraph above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldaris View Post
    Norwegians stumbled upon it, built one camp in there and then fortgot about it. I hope you understand that anything worth of being called discovery would be much more complex than that. It was the Spanish and Portuguese, who connected the two worlds in a systematic, long-term manner, conquered the existing empires and began the Columbian exchange. So no, I won’t grant you your point. Even if I felt that generous, there already were old worlders making contact with America and its people, namely the Siberians living near the Bering strait.



    Again, followed by no colonization. It was the Spanish who had done all the relevant stuff in the 1500s. The English didn't even have a one real settlement in there until one hundred years ago later, by which most of North America was already well-integrated part of Spanish empire. So the case is pretty much the same as in the paragraph above.
    I'll give you one credit. The marriage of Catherine of Aragon to Arthur and then Henry VIII, followed by Philip II and Mary. We can instead laugh at the French, for what you say to negate England really applies to them.

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    Nordarya, have the hispanics bulliyed you at the school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    Nordarya, have the hispanics bulliyed you at the school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    What are you going to eat for the dinner today?

    Does your mommy let you cook or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    Liar. Look at the title. That's a very provocative premise.
    ¿Provocativo? ¿Cuántas veces los anglos habréis despotricado de España y de la Europa mediterránea y nadie se os ha quejado? ¿Y ahora te enfadas porque alguien que ni siquiera es español abre un hilo haciendo una pregunta, que no una afirmación, y porque cada cual opina lo que quiere?

    A mí personalmente me da igual, la colonización española y la anglosajona no son comparables porque cada una partió de unas bases económicas y sociales distintas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    I'll give you one credit. The marriage of Catherine of Aragon to Arthur and then Henry VIII, followed by Philip II and Mary. We can instead laugh at the French, for what you say to negate England really applies to them.
    Kinda appropriate in this case, as the marriage was a desperate way to seal an alliance with the Spanish, but guessing from your 'on the spectrum' posting pattern, you should be more concerned with Gupta empire, rather than the English one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordarya View Post
    English had our own Italian navigators in the Cabot family. No Columbus involved, no Spain either.
    Second class navigators, baby. Colón included.

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