Are Germans dark or swarthy?

[Token]

If Germans are swarthy, then 90% of Europe is swarthier.

[Supercomputer]

So what about Germany's team in the 2019 men's hockey world championship (https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2019/...r/3696/germany)?



Even when using liberal criteria for what counts as light-colored hair, I don't think it makes sense to say that the majority of non-elderly adult ethnic Germans have light-colored hair.

Look at their pupils. They're dialed suggesting bad lighting.

Just as a side note, the frequency of light eyes in this and the previous sample you provided is 35/49 or 71,4% - very close to what Virchow found (72,7%)

[XenophobicPrussian]

This means nothing unless you give the link or at least a screenshot of the study. Besides, wasn't it you yourself who dismissed Beddoe as unreliable when I was the one sourcing him?

Yes, when I sourced Beddoe on Irish vs English hair pigmentation he called Beddoe biased and unreliable. Only recently has Sept agreed to regional differences in the British Isles, before he would claim Irish are no different from English in hair colour, and even Germans/Scandos(not only skin and eye colour like he does now).

It's possible, but highly unlikely Beddoe actually looked at both the British Islanders and Germans together himself, Germans/Dutch might be from a local source, etc. He just posted Coon's mixed eye/light hair pigmentation index map edited by some random guy to be a hair colour map as a hair colour map, which shows you how much he knows about anything.

[Supercomputer]

Studies or personal observations. There is no big difference between Bavaria and the rest of Germany. Rather between Bavaria and Northern Germany. England is overall lighter - haired due to the fact that it does not have the extreme North vs South gradient of Germany.

https://www.thevintagenews.com/wp-co...-by-sa-4-0.jpg

https://external-preview.redd.it/zKO...=webp&8a42c684

It is according to Virchow. I have made a map about it which you have seen.

England isn't lighter haired than Germany. This Nigerscence map compares British to Germans and only a few German regions in the South have higher index while most of Germany has lower level.



The map you posted isn't a hair colour map, it's just a combination of Coon's hair and eye colour map (which has many innacuracies itself) and Peter Frost's map which is ridiculous.

[Tauromachos]

I already said that Germans are not swarthy by European standards but by Anglo-Sphere standards they are; so, I haven't got a clue about what you are talking about here. This guys skin is darker than most English, Scottish and Irish people but I'm not so sure about Wales as the Welsh are the darkest Britons even darker than the Cornish.

Some Welsh look so woggish it hurts

[Red Pill]

Blondism in England and Germany are somehow different. In England it is more reddish and golden, while in Germany still golden but verges more towards ashen colors. Coon, Lundman finds eastern Britain to be of a Scandinavian level of blondism. Ripley finds England to be 40% blond. Coon finds the North Sea shore of England to be as high as 90% light-eyed. Gunther estimates Britain to be more Nordid than Germany. The light hair and eye gene map is lot more accurate than anthropological one. Ok.
Beddoe was bias against Celtic Britons. To even call Irish folks, Africanoids and linked it to “prognathism”. This is rubbish!

Do you have references to those statements from Lundman and Gunther (correct sources, links etc)? My impression from pictures and movies is that generally Brits are less blond than Germans. For instance, looking at pics of British and German ww2 soldiers I have the impression that the latter look blonder and more "stereotypically" Nordic. Maybe that in part depends on the fact that German soldiers used to wear their hair longer. I read Lundman's book about Swedish racial types, he uses a combination of cephalic index and pigmentation in his classification, but ignores facial phenotype (physiognomy, which is a much more complex trait). Low cephalic index is common among Mediterraneans too, thus it's not surprising to find it among British Atlantid and Atlanto-mediterranean types. Coon wrote that Nordics are basically de-pigmented Mediterraneans, but that ignores other cranial features and physiognomy. If you took an average Swede and dyed his/her hair black with brown contacts he/she wouldn't look Southern European.

Anyway, the OP doesn't make much sense because in general it's evident that ethnic Germans are on the fair side of skin pigmentation, mostly type 2 with a minority of 3 in the Fitzpatrick scale. Maybe "Anglo" perception of "swarthy" Germans is due to the fact that they have less type 1 than in the British islands, but calling them swarthy seems a bit ridiculous.

[Lousianaboy]

im dirty blonde, I think I got the typical get,an pigmentation, pale skin, dirty blonde hair, hazel eyes a bit freckled

[Gründig]

im dirty blonde, I think I got the typical get,an pigmentation, pale skin, dirty blonde hair, hazel eyes a bit freckled

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[Septentrion]

Do you have references to those statements from Lundman and Gunther (correct sources, links etc)? My impression from pictures and movies is that generally Brits are less blond than Germans. For instance, looking at pics of British and German ww2 soldiers I have the impression that the latter look blonder and more "stereotypically" Nordic. Maybe that in part depends on the fact that German soldiers used to wear their hair longer. I read Lundman's book about Swedish racial types, he uses a combination of cephalic index and pigmentation in his classification, but ignores facial phenotype (physiognomy, which is a much more complex trait). Low cephalic index is common among Mediterraneans too, thus it's not surprising to find it among British Atlantid and Atlanto-mediterranean types. Coon wrote that Nordics are basically de-pigmented Mediterraneans, but that ignores other cranial features and physiognomy. If you took an average Swede and dyed his/her hair black with brown contacts he/she wouldn't look Southern European.

Anyway, the OP doesn't make much sense because in general it's evident that ethnic Germans are on the fair side of skin pigmentation, mostly type 2 with a minority of 3 in the Fitzpatrick scale. Maybe "Anglo" perception of "swarthy" Germans is due to the fact that they have less type 1 than in the British islands, but calling them swarthy seems a bit ridiculous.

Do you even know what you are talking about? Gunther theories form the racial basis for the Nazis! Gunther was just as bad as the Nazis were! The only difference is that, he didn’t act upon his belief as the Nazis did. Now the reality is that even a prick like Gunther recognized the British Islanders to be more Nordic in race than the Germans as a whole. According to the idiots ( Nazis):
The Nordic race made up:
Sweden - over 80%
Norway - 80%:
Britain - 60%
Germany - 55%
France - 25%
Russia - 25%

Denmark was not seen to be compared to Norway and Sweden, as it was said to have strong East Baltic strains.

[Luso]

Let’s do steroids chaaaaa brahhhh

But can he grow a marvelous mustache? This is the important question.