Are Caribbean Amerindians in the same Category as Amazonian amerindians ?

[Thetruth]

I mean the Arawak language family spread from the Amazon to Colombia, Venezuela and into the Caribbean. Are Amazonian and Caribbean natives practically related and have similar lifestyles.

So basically there’s

1. Southwestern USA Amerindians and Northern Mexico

2. Central Mexico (Aztecs)

2. Meso-America (Mayans)

3. Intermediate/Chibcha Region (Southern Central America and Colombia)

4. Caribbean, Amazonian and Gran Chaco Amerindians(Amazonian Nomads) (Spans from the Amazon basin, Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, the Guiana’s, Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador. To parts of maybe Argentina and Paraguay. By far the largest region encompassing so many present day territories. The heart of they’re culture is in the center of the Amazon)

5. Inca Region (Central Andes)

6. Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego (Mapuches, only Chile and Argentina)

Would you agree with this ?

[Erronkari]

Yes, great job!!
I suggest to you to add Eastern and extreme Northern bolivians in number 4 and It's almost perfect imo.

[Thetruth]

Oh they are, it’s part of the Amazonian region so that’s why I just added that since eastern Bolivia is part of the Amazon(well a chunk of it anyways)

[Erronkari]

Edited.

[alnortedelsur]

I mean the Arawak language family spread from the Caribbean islands to Colombia and Venezuela and into the Amazon region of multiple countries within it. Are Amazonian and Caribbean natives practically related and have similar lifestyles.

So basically there’s

1. Southwestern USA Amerindians and Northern Mexico

2. Central Mexico (Aztecs)

2. Meso-America (Mayans)

3. Intermediate/Chibcha Region (Southern Central America and Colombia)

4. Caribbean, Amazonian and Gran Chaco Amerindians(Amazonian Nomads) (Spreads from the Amazon basin, Brazil, Colombia, Venezuela, the Guiana’s, Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador. To parts of maybe Argentina and Paraguay. By far the largest region encompassing so many present day territories. The heart of they’re culture is in the center of the Amazon)

5. Inca Region (Central Andes)

6. Patagonia and Tierra del Fuego (Mapuches, only Chile and Argentina)

Would you agree with this ?

The Venezuelan Andean Amerindians (mostly extinct, and their blood only survived through mestizaje) also belonged to the Chibcha family.

And i would say that is the other way around: Arawaks and Caribbeans originally spread northwards to Venezuela and Colombia from Brazil, and then, from Venezuela, they spread north to the Caribbean islands.

[Thetruth]

Ok you’re right about the Venezuelan thing my mistake I forgot to include them in the Chibcha category but did you really just correct me when I just posted everything you did right now, hence why I did the 4th. Category is Amazonian nomads nowhere did I say that they came originally from Colombia or Venezuela I just listed the regions that group lived in, not the order in what modern day country they went to first. of course the Arawak group spread into the Caribbean I just didn’t list that down because I thought I made it clear they’re part of the 4th group since the Arawak language family exists in the Amazon, which is why I didn’t feel the need to put that bit of information down.

[alnortedelsur]

Ok you’re right about the Venezuelan thing my mistake I forgot to include them in the Chibcha category but did you really just correct me when I just posted everything you did right now, hence why I did the 4th. Category is Amazonian nomads nowhere did I say that they came originally from Colombia or Venezuela I just listed the regions that group lived in, not the order in what modern day country they went to first. of course the Arawak group spread into the Caribbean I just didn’t list that down because I thought I made it clear they’re part of the 4th group since the Arawak language family exists in the Amazon, which is why I didn’t feel the need to put that bit of information down.

I was just correcting your first paragraph, where you say that the Arawak language family spread from the Caribbean islands, down to Venezuela/Colombia and into the Amazon region, when they actually spread from the Amazon northwards. But most of your summary is right.

No need to thumb me down for making those observations.

[Thetruth]

My mistake I realized I put spread instead of span on that sentence and made it sounds like I was talking about where that group migrated first. I was listing the regions down and how far the group in the category spans not where the group first spread to to reach the Caribbean, I should have mentioned my list was in no order from which region they reached first or last, hence why I put down “Amazonian nomads” since that’s where they all came from.

Edited: oh wait I just noticed the error, thanks for pointing it out

[samario]

From what I've gathered. Caribs descend from indigenous tribes that emigrated from the Orinoco river in Venezuela and they are unrelated to Tainos who spoke a language from a different linguistic branch.

Tainos are believed to have originated in the Amazon Basin.

So you got Tainos and Caribs, two distinct groups. The Tainos were Arawak-speaking, Caribs were not.

By the way, this is the distribution of Arawak-speaking communities. Apart from the Wayuu, they are not really that populous in Colombia.



Cariban languages



Chibchan languages



Then you got the Chibchas whose closest relatives are found in Mesoamerican and North American communities given as Chibchas were the most representative indigenous tribes in the country. They are unrelated to Tainos, Caribs or Incas. Many other language families in Colombia went extinct, some others are isolates.

Colombia as a whole, speaking of indigenous tribes, is more related to Costa Rica or Panama than to Venezuela or the Caribbean Antilles.

Northern Chile and Argentina indigenous communities are related to the Central Andes and southern Amazon basin, etc.

Mapuches and Patagonian communities are sui generis, not the only ones, though. There are a bunch of isolates across the continent.

[Thetruth]

Agreed but on the isolates being that they’re surrounded by obviously groups who are part of a much larger family and belong to the same region as them that would put them in the same category when it comes to regions such as the Amazonian ones since there’s plenty of isolates there but they’re still Amazonian as much as the Arawak group. I think the people of the gran Chaco are related to the people of the southern Amazon basin not those in northwest Argentina and north Chile but there are groups who live near and close to the Amazon who are part of the Inca cultural group since they’re more related to them. The mapuches colonized most of the tribes of Patagonia in a process called aracunization al I guess that puts them in the same group even though I think a lot of them are isolated such as the Selknam people