Is Latin America overall more gay friendly than Eastern Europe?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

That may be true, but then the Maltese, Greeks, Norwegians, Danes, Icelandics, Finnish, Portuguese and the Irish are also predominantly Christian (just like the Russians & Ukrainians, perhaps even more so), but they aren't that discriminatory or violent towards gays (and some of these groups are pretty tolerant of gays even). Furthermore, Armenia is universally Christian and it's relatively gay friendly compared to Russia. Kinda makes you think that there's something deeper here, no?

The darker the shade, the more Christian:


Russians have been violent as both Christian and atheist (Marxist–Leninist atheism). So their animus behaviour is more cultural or inherent than religious per se. Heck, if Russians & Ukrainians were majorly Muslim instead, then they'd probably the most unsafest Islamic countries in the world alongside Pakistan and Afghanistan, and they would be spawning a few terrorists here and there.

Its not about ortodox christianity, its about post soviet ideology, were people in eastern europe were told that all homosexuals are pedofiles and sexually harras children.

[Zroota]

In roman catholicism, homosexuals are just cleric material.

He's a looker.

Is he really gay though? Lol

Its not about ortodox christianity, its about post soviet ideology, were people in eastern europe were told that all homosexuals are pedofiles and sexually harras children.

I know. Whilst Orthodox Christianity is more stricter and conservative, I still happen to think that Soviets tend to habitually conjure up extremist ideologies and sets of aberrant ideas when it comes to "other people". They did that when they were Stalinist atheists with their strange propaganda system regarding Germans, Poles, Spaniards and other people. Now they're perpetuating the same thing, only this time they're in an Orthodox mantle, and homosexuals are the aim. The cycle will continue. It's in their blood.

Now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia...propaganda_law
Then: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prop...e_Soviet_Union

[Dna8]

He's a looker.

You like Mediterranean men almost as much as I do!

[ioan assen]

There is not much correlation between what the public wants in relation to homo "marriage" and what the laws on it are. Nowhere in these "democratic" countries was the population consulted, before parliaments or supreme courts changed the laws and almost everywhere the majority of the population was against it.

Of course, it wouldn't have passed otherwise. But in Spain for example (a very catholic country) when nothing happened after the legalization of the marriage, its now a very pro lgbtq state. Same should happen in eastern Europe.

[Nurzat]

Last week I was impressed because I saw gays are only 6% of New York Population when in Brazil its more 20-30% in all capitals according to my observation.

wuttafuk.. 6% of NY is huge. and 1/4 of Brazil's capitals is dystopic. really?

[ioan assen]

Orthodox Christianity is stuck in the middle ages and is unfortunately influenced by Islam (it borders it). Greece has been under heavy western influence since early 19 century, not to mention under heavy catholic influence on the islands so its more ... how should I put it "civilized". Plus each year most of Western Europe (including gays) is sunbathing on its shores for like 5 decades.
There must be some reasoning for the homophobia in the communism or the "envy" of the West and the desire to show some kind of other way compared to the western way? Its quite obvious in Russia. And some of the Eastern Europeans (usually the not so bright ones) take the bait. Its a mixture of things I guess? Czech republic was the 6th most developed nation in 1945... It probably never really saw itself as part of the Eastern block, especially culturally.

[kratz]

I think only certain countries. I know for fact that the Andean countries in South America are conservative.

[Thetruth]

Can think of any Latin American country that has gone down the path of Russia where they’ve regressed back. I guess Mexican homophobia just doesn’t match to the repressive homophobia of Eastern Europe no matter how violent it is. There’s parts of Mexico where gay marriage is already legal(aswell as Mexico City having gay adoptions/full gay marriage), gay characters are become pretty common in Latino novelas.

I’m not sure how the situation is in Eastern European countries but I would love to hear some experience from people who are knowledgeable on that.

[Thetruth]

I think only certain countries. I know for fact that the Andean countries in South America are conservative.

Let’s be honest no Andean country is on Russia’s level, the most conservative countries I’d argue aren’t even the Andean countries, it’s the Caribbean and Central America. Ecuador already legalized gay marriage and I expect Peru to do so by the end of this decade. The whole Andean countries being the most conservative is trope.

Most liberal countries in South America have to be

Uruguay
Argentina
Brazil

In that order

Somewhere in the middle

Colombia
Chile
Ecuador

the middle of more at the bottom

Peru
Bolivia
Venezuela
Paraguay

Most homophobic

Guyana
Suriname


(French Guiana is technically part of France so I’m gonna leave it in gray, since it’s kinda ambiguous)

[Thetruth]

Homophobia exists everywhere and no country doesn’t have homophobia but if you want to compare apples and oranges. Then I guess you could compare American homophobia to Russian/Saudi homophobia and see which is more tolerable.