Serbian archeologist about Slavic presence in Syrmia in 1st century AD and "Slavic migration"

[Pribislav]

His nameis Radovan Kovačević, he worked on necropolis from 1st century AD in Syrmia.

I translated down part of video 12:12 - 16:55. I recomment to Orthodox Serbs, Catholic Serbs, and Muslim Serbs to watch whole video.



Youtube presenter: Many people are interested: Are we settler (in 7th century) or not? Are we Slavs or not?

Archeologist: I am somewhere for the middle. Russian school teaches that Russians arrived from central Danube region. This is their official school. Our school teaches that we came from behind of the Carpathians, this is not possible that 100 000 Slavs enslave 8 000 0000 Illyrians and other people. Roman empire or Byzantine still held this territory, doesn't seem possible to me. If I were to entered alone in bar and said "this bar is now mine", but 100 people stand up and say "what are you said." So, that is not clear to me.
That cemetery (from 1st century AD) was interesting, that was excavation durring the reconstrution of higway Belgrade-Zagreb. I was a kid when cemetery was discovered, first year of college I enrolled in Belgrade and later I moved to the Edinburgh and continued education. There is 252 graves there, the entire report, official report, from archeollgical excavation I published in one publication and I gave to professor Radovan Damjanović who is my friend. So I don't currently have to show you official report. Of 252 graves there is 6 Roman, 2 Germanic, and all other are Slavic, with osteological analysys which made Mrs Živanović. I am not an anthropologist, to know how work osteorological analysys especially in medical university. I am just archeological and my job is to dig. Contributions were Roman and of unknown origin, the cemetery is from 1st cenruty AD or maybe from early 2nd century. I heard that can be done with teeths, it's necessary to be taken causim which can determinate origin of vegetables... My job was to dig, and and I wanted to publish study... But archeologist who was above me (my boss) said to me: "you must to write it is a mistake." I did not want to write that , but he wrote and singed my work... There was some kind of Slavoid population in area. Are they were Dinaroid population which aredifferent from East Slavs. We are Dinaroid (in general), and you and me. Dinaroids are classic inexplicable situation for the people who don't want to explain, they say Dinaroids are part of "Slavic" corps. For those who want to explain Dinaroids are mix of populations. Took one Polak and one Dinaroid and you will se huge difference...
Is somebody came: yes Slavs arrived, one group arrived for sure, but they knew where they were going, they went to the central Danube region (Russians claim origin from there), they went to their brothers which lived there always. Imagination is they crossed Danube, huge army was on Byzantine side emperor Justinian had 600 000 soldiers, and 100 000 Slavs with women and children to crossed river (nonsens). How that imigrant later assimilated other people? (nonsens).

[Bosniensis]

Well, whatever official stance in modern history is, there is no doubt that Serbians are modeled Half Roman (Greek, Byzantine, Italian, Paleo Balkan) + Half Ancient Slav (Ukrainian, Belorussian, Pole).

Also our Haplogroups I2 (Oldest in Europe), J2 (Very Old) and R1a (steppe) indicate that we have been part of Roman Empire for many many many centuries.

We hear Turks saying: "He is real Turk, cause he he 20% Central Asian"

Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats (especially southern ones) have 50% Iron Age DNA from Ancient ROME (city)

When I started saying in 2015 that we are descendants of both Romans and Early Slavs people laughed at me.

It is actually very correct to say that (Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats, Montenegrins) are Northern Illyrian Tribes and that Illyrians are South Slavs.

Here is the mention of Illyrians and Thracians mixing with Early Slavs (before Jesus)

Zyraxes was a Getae king who ruled the northern part of what is today Dobrogea in the 1st century BC. He was mentioned in relation with the campaigns of Marcus Licinius Crassus (grandson of the triumvir). His capital, Genucla, was besieged by the Romans in 28 BC, but he managed to escape and flee to his Scythian allies. (Thracians best buddies are Scythians (Russian like people)

Earlier, Antonius Hybrida, the governor of Moesia (Bulgaria + Serbia), was defeated beneath the walls of Histria in 61 BC. The Getae under Zyraxes and the bastarnae of Scythia were allied with the Histrians (Thracians, Scythians and Illyrians), but it seems that the main victors of this conflict were the Getae, as they were the keepers of the battle trophies and brought them back to Genucla, Zyraxes' capital.

The trophies were recovered by Marcus Licinius Crassus when he attacked the Genucla fortress, situated somewhere on the bank of the Danube, in 28 BC. Zyraxes knew well enough that he could not hold on his own and retreated across the Danube to the Bastarnae (Scythians), with whom he was allied, while also taking the treasure with him. The fortress fell in his absence, after a brief but hard siege.

[Pribislav]

Well, whatever official stance in modern history is, there is no doubt that Serbians are modeled Half Roman (Greek, Byzantine, Italian, Paleo Balkan) + Half Ancient Slav (Ukrainian, Belorussian, Pole).

Also our Haplogroups I2 (Oldest in Europe), J2 (Very Old) and R1a (steppe) indicate that we have been part of Roman Empire for many many many centuries.

We hear Turks saying: "He is real Turk, cause he he 20% Central Asian"

Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats (especially southern ones) have 50% Iron Age DNA from Ancient ROME (city)

When I started saying in 2015 that we are descendants of both Romans and Early Slavs people laughed at me.

It is actually very correct to say that (Serbs, Bosniaks, Croats, Montenegrins) are Northern Illyrian Tribes and that Illyrians are South Slavs.

Here is the mention of Illyrians and Thracians mixing with Early Slavs (before Jesus)

Zyraxes was a Getae king who ruled the northern part of what is today Dobrogea in the 1st century BC. He was mentioned in relation with the campaigns of Marcus Licinius Crassus (grandson of the triumvir). His capital, Genucla, was besieged by the Romans in 28 BC, but he managed to escape and flee to his Scythian allies. (Thracians best buddies are Scythians (Russian like people)

Earlier, Antonius Hybrida, the governor of Moesia (Bulgaria + Serbia), was defeated beneath the walls of Histria in 61 BC. The Getae under Zyraxes and the bastarnae of Scythia were allied with the Histrians (Thracians, Scythians and Illyrians), but it seems that the main victors of this conflict were the Getae, as they were the keepers of the battle trophies and brought them back to Genucla, Zyraxes' capital.

The trophies were recovered by Marcus Licinius Crassus when he attacked the Genucla fortress, situated somewhere on the bank of the Danube, in 28 BC. Zyraxes knew well enough that he could not hold on his own and retreated across the Danube to the Bastarnae (Scythians), with whom he was allied, while also taking the treasure with him. The fortress fell in his absence, after a brief but hard siege.

Radovan Kovačević is against Deretić, he hold Deretić for mythoman who see Serbs everywhere. But he is also aginst historians who promote Slavic migration in 7th century.

[Bosniensis]

Serbian & Bulgarian Folk Song named: "Emperor Trajan's Donkey Ears"

Did Serbs learn that song in Russia? They met Trajan in Russia?

What are the chances that Serbs invented "Folk Song" = 0.

All Illyrian Emperors are Dinarid in Phenotype, all Bosnians, Serbs and most of Croats have Dinarid phenotype.

Romans admitted that "Illyrians are not speaking Latin or Greek"

Late Roman "Byzantine Historians noted": Emperor Dusan the Mighty want to create an Empire of Illyrian Peoples.

Emperor Dusan in his "Dusan's Code" wrote (I read it myself): "To me is given that what was Given to Constantine the Great before me" (who was Romanized Serb)

Also this:



Diocletian's Illyricum



Dusan the Mighty (Illyrian (Serbian) Empire)

[Bosniensis]

Radovan Kovačević is against Deretić, he hold Deretić for mythoman who see Serbs everywhere. But he is also aginst historians who promote Slavic migration in 7th century.

Deretić says that Balkan people came from Syria, and that Ancient "Serbian" Empire was in Syria. That is wrong.

ALL HUMANS descend from earlier human nations and civilizations, so according to that Logic of Deretić, Even Adam and Eve were Serbs.

Serbs exist since 2500 B.C. according to Greek Myth where Illyrian Tribes were spread from Panonius descendant of Rod who was son of Javan (son of Yapheth).

Greeks says: Triballi (Serbs) are Younger Pannonian Illyrian Tribe. (Michael Choniates and Demetrius Chalkondyles)

"Younger Pannonian Illyrian Tribe" so there were other Tribes like "Dalmati, Histri, Deuri, Neretljani, Brčaci (Breuci) etc..."

All Those people who descend from Pannonian Plain and North of Greece are Illyrians.

[ProudBrit]

Been saying this for years: half greek + half belarussian/russian look nothing like south slavs on average, let alone the high i2 haplo among south slavs wheras in Belarus its like 5% and only in the south.

Slavs, a population that we have no ancient writings of managed to occupy almost half of Europe out of a sudden?Pure fiction.

For sure the original south slavs were carpathian like(and not true northerners): who can be modeled as half 'true slavic' and half celtoid i2 beaker.

This is also in concordance with the physical description of the south slavs(neither dark nor light).

Of course, these are just the biggest components, modern populations cannot be modeled using just 2-3 ancient or medieval populations, dozens participated in their ethnogenesis, but all in all south slavs are probably no more than 20-30% 'belarussian'

[Pribislav]

Deretić says that Balkan people came from Syria, and that Ancient "Serbian" Empire was in Syria. That is wrong.

ALL HUMANS descend from earlier human nations and civilizations, so according to that Logic of Deretić, Even Adam and Eve were Serbs.

Serbs exist since 2500 B.C. according to Greek Myth where Illyrian Tribes were spread from Panonius descendant of Rod who was son of Javan (son of Yapheth).

Greeks says: Triballi (Serbs) are Younger Pannonian Illyrian Tribe. (Michael Choniates and Demetrius Chalkondyles)

"Younger Pannonian Illyrian Tribe" so there were other Tribes like "Dalmati, Histri, Deuri, Neretljani, Brčaci (Breuci) etc..."

All Those people who descend from Pannonian Plain and North of Greece are Illyrians.

Deretić is not even real historian. He is mechanical engineer.

Radovan Kovačević is archeologist who graduate on university in Edinburgh (Scotland is known by very high quality of high education). Kovačević has official permission to dig all over Serbia.

[Bosniensis]

Deretić is not even real historian. He is mechanical engineer.

Radovan Kovačević is archeologist who graduate on university in Edinburgh (Scotland is known by very high quality of high education). Kovačević has official permission to dig all over Serbia.

Our mentality ... "to go somewhere... " to learn somewhere else outside Balkans to become "Smart".

I believe there are smarter people on Balkans than those on Edinburgh university. Why do we have to go somewhere else to prove ourselves that we are smart.

I don't want to go to Germany or Britain to collect Knowledge. I can become smarter at home.

I think that it's a common sense to say that we didn't came from Russia or wherever just by looking at people's faces.

We will never be rid of fog of lies that has been installed on us by foreigners until we start creating our own universities, our own FACTS and TRUTHS.

Propaganda is at foreign universities ALWAYS.

[Pribislav]

Our mentality ... "to go somewhere... " to learn somewhere else outside Balkans to become "Smart".

I believe there are smarter people on Balkans than those on Edinburgh university. Why do we have to go somewhere else to prove ourselves that we are smart.

I don't want to go to Germany or Britain to collect Knowledge. I can become smarter at home.

I think that it's a common sense to say that we didn't came from Russia or wherever just by looking at people's faces.

We will never be rid of fog of lies that has been installed on us by foreigners until we start creating our own universities, our own FACTS and TRUTHS.

Propaganda is at foreign universities ALWAYS.

It's not important where he finnished university. Point is that this man from video is an archeologist, and Deretić is nobody in history and archeological profession.

[Bosniensis]

It's not important where he finnished university. Point is that this man from video is an archeologist, and Deretić is nobody in history and archeological profession.

Deretić has some good research projects that are not 100% garbage.

When you read Deretić you need to pick carefully for some his ideas are pure madness (BUT NOT ALL).

Imagine Deretić as Lunatic who has some great theories... and other ones complete nonsense.

I won't disregard him 100%. For me he is both smart and lunatic.